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Exactly what I did NOT want to read :omg:
I have heard of the malfunction and that is a regrettable situaton caused by Parlay software and not Vic’s Bingo. Vic’s unfortunately was the most injured hall.
In my opinion Parlay should have stepped up to the plate and paid.
Vic’s got stuck doing it.I don’t have time now to follow all these links you posted, but I have read some of them when they were timely.
There are no complaints at all about Vic’s in my forum, privately or publicly, and many of my members love playing there.
As Casinomeister says so many times, software companies need to show more responsibility. Parlay is a respected company with good software, they should have shown the integrity to step up and deal with the issue.
While I agree that this could have been handled better, I will continue to approve of Vic’s bingo. In my opinion, they were the injured party. Parlay’s software malfunctioned and Vic’s had to pay for it.
Dominique said:
Quote:I don’t have time now to follow all these links you posted, but I have read some of them when they were timely.This is an important issue to a lot of people, I don’t see how you can glance over my post and offer an opinion, without reading all the facts in the links. My words alone are just a part of the picture, unless you read and follow the whole story.
You are not hearing about this at your forum because you do not allow player complaints there, anyway that was your position, the last time I was there. Up to when this issue occurred I was a top supporter of Vic’s and Bingo Hall. They were a top notched site. But clearly made a bad decision and it’s costing them dearly.
I have seen no proof that Parlay was at fault here. I’m asking for statements from them, and will post them later if need be.
Dominique said:
Quote:Parlay’s software malfunctioned and Vic’s had to pay for it.What do you have to support this statement?
I’m not here to get into a heated debate with any member! I’m here to inform fellow affiliates of wrong doings by Vic‘s. I presented my statement and believe the links that are included will support what I say. When something goes wrong at a site, it’s always the players who suffer. In this case many Affiliates also lost a lot of money, by Vic’s closing accounts and many players refusing to deposit there any longer. The support of the Boycott is increasing and as the word gets out more will join. This will trickle down to affiliates. I would ask my fellow affiliates here to withhold posting an opinion unless they read and follow the whole post.
I just think it unfair that a really big affiliate give my post a thumbs down with out really giving it the attention it deserves. Some may just see your remarks and figure, that if you feel there is nothing to my post, why read it.
:unhappy:Like I said, I followed this when it was timely. Just haven’t been to your board.
You are not hearing about this at your forum because you do not allow player complaints there,
My board rules are simple and posted there:
Do post all you like!
Do talk about anything you like.
Do make new friends.
Do vent when you need to.
Just be yourself.Don’t attack others.
Don’t sling mud.
Don’t put others down for any reason.
Don’t spam!Same thing as here.
My board is a community of players who like to enjoy their play and like to talk about Bingo and life in general, family and friendships and other personal matters.
We are a happy group. If any of us have issues with Bingo halls, we solve them and get on with what we enjoy. Should we ever not be able to resolve our issues, I am sure Casinomeister will do a wonderful job of it.
I am confident I can solve any problems my members might have with any of the halls I allow on my board. It is one of the criteria for being allowed there. The board is there to provide members with entertainment, friendship and protection, and it does just that.
Everyone knows I travel the boards and check out player opinions and reports daily. I was aware of the issue when it occurred and gave my take on it above.
Quote:One by one players that were faithful to Vic’s Bingo for over 4 yrs had there accounts disabled. If they knew you were posting in the forums against them, you were gone. In all fairness to Vic’s I think they reconsidered this and did reinstate some accounts.In my opinion, they dealt with their software issues in the worst way.
Whether or not the mistake was theirs, they did NOT treat their players appropriately. The treatment of players is an extremely important aspect of this business. The players are the reason this business exists.
One by one players that were faithful to Vic’s Bingo for over 4 yrs had there accounts disabled. If they knew you were posting in the forums against them, you were gone. In all fairness to Vic’s I think they reconsidered this and did reinstate some accounts.
I do not know this to be a fact at all.
No one I know had this happen.
This is an interesting thread. Perhaps Roo or Scott will be able to offer an explanation?
Dominique wrote:I do not know this to be a fact at all.
That’s true, but we don’t know that it isn’t a fact, either.Engineer wrote:This is an interesting thread. Perhaps Roo or Scott will be able to offer an explanation?
Yes, we need to hear from them before rushing to any conclusions.Quote:Vic’s closed my account as well foo and when they did it I had money in it. The excuse they gave was that I was starting problems in chat but they never gave me a warning and then threatened me that if I was to post on the forums they would disable my accounts at bingo hall and southbeach bingo and also at bingo for money.I had $500 in my account at Vic’s and I also did do a post at the forum, but when they saw it they said if I would delete what I had posted in the forum they would re-open my account. So that’s why I deleted everything I had posted. Thinking that if I deleted it, I would be able to get my money back. The messed up thing is that after I deleted everything, THEY REFUSED to re-open my accounts and disabled ALL my accounts. Even the other ones at their other sites. Then they BLOCKED MY IP ADDRESS so I can’t even log onto their siteS and they made off with $500 of my money. I recommend anyone who wants to try them out to turn around and never even think about it. They are very dishonest. I don’t care what I may have done in chat, whether it be scrolling or other annoying things, NONE OF THESE THINGS warrant what VICSBINGO HAS STOLEN FROM ME!
It is worth investigating before making any judgements.
I am moving this to Revenue Giants for resolution.
Good idea.
Roo’s a good guy. He can straighten this out for us.
As I’m sure you can all appreciate, this matter goes well beyond Revenue Giants, which is obviously the affiliate program for Vics.
What I can say is that none of the affected players were referrals of affiliates. In fact, nearly all of them were referred by other players.
As far as we are aware, this matter is still being looked into by all parties.
I am hoping to get more information that we can post here in the next couple of days. Until then, I appreciate your patience.
Thanks,
Scott Logan
RevenueGiants.comThat’s a sensible response and a good start Scott.
Thanks for getting onto this.
:clapper:Look forward to the results being posted back here at CAP and sorted out to everyones satisfaction in a professional manner.
:satisfiedJust my curiosity here, but is Cyalater8 a name you use on alot of forums or just on cap? Not trying to make an insinuation here (yet) but I do get curious when the first post I read by a new member is a negative post.. and they don’t appear to have any interest in posting anywhere else on the forum.. the ‘goodbye’ type nick made me curious enough to ask.
I’m not saying that it isnt just because this is the first thing you have felt strong enough to post about and that happens to be the name ya use online.. just askin..
~ LadyH
I agree that this is not an affiliate matter and outside of Revenue Giant’s responsibilities and capacities and they are really not responsible for a glitch in Parlay’s software.
Ladyholdem, yes, Cyalator posts at other forums and is always negative, shows no interest in the general forum as a rule except for his his agenda. Is not a supportive poster in any forum I know of but his own.
That is what made me sceptical about claims in the first place.
Thank you for your unfounded negative comments about me. Seems to me as a Moderator here, you should be keeping your personal remarks, as to my character, to yourself, unless you are ready to back them up. I didn’t post in this forum to be insulted and will not just sit back and take it! The issue I present here is a Player and Affiliate issue, this was well under way, before I got involved. My roll in this is to shamelessly promote myself and hopefully get a few visitors to my forum.
I have been around the player forums with the Name Cyalater8 for a few years now. My main focus has always been flaming message boards and making a nusiance of myself. I’m considered to be a trouble maker and enjoy that reputation of being a shit stirer. If I do a negative post about a site I back in up with facts and Data. Even Marco from Bingo Hall has posted favorable comments about my honesty. I have defended actions of Bingo Hall, Party Bingo and other Bingo Sites.
When I started flaming 7 months ago, my goal was to have a forum where players and sites dont know my true intentions. I still have faith in that concept. We have flamed a few sites and hope to be doing more of this in the future. In order to get my barbs in sites I decided to impersonate an Affiliate on sites that staff and myself have decided actually have traffic (unlike my own) and deemed them Fair Game. On my index page, I have a forum called Approved Bingo Sites! In there you will find links and Banners to 11 sites whom I havent flamed, yet. So I’m not getting rich and most of my sites income was coming from Revenue Giants, but I removed their Banners when I saw the opportunity to flame them to promote myself.
Dominique said:
Quote:I agree that this is not an affiliate matter and outside of Revenue Giant’s responsibilities and capacities and they are really not responsible for a glitch in Parlay’s software.The truth is! I have seen no proof that there ever was a glitch in the keno program software. If I’m not mistaken, the keno game uses the same platform and software on all their sister sites and there were no problems there. The players contend a Malfunction was declared to get out of paying multiple wins. And once again I ask you Dominique, what facts do you have to back up the above quote?
I have followed your posts also and must say you are very knowledgeable about the Casino Industry, but have not a clue as to what’s going on in Bingo World! I say this because more than once I have seen proof offered to you that a Bingo site is bad and you tossed it all off as hogwash! I believe you reach many conclusions by just glancing at a topic and don’t really take the time to really read and gather all the facts before you post an opinion. Proof of this is in your own words in your first post under this topic.
I should be addressing my remarks at Rgscott Not warding off an attack by someone that has a personel dislike of me and doing her best to discredit me in this forum.
I received and email from Roo on 4/8/2006 in the email he said:
Quote:I have been informed that Marco is not handling this matter and has not
responded as Jon Daley, President of Bingohall is personally dealing with
this matter.The problem is not with Revenue Giant, I have always found them the best to be affiliated with. This problem rests on the shoulders of Jon Daley.
