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Oy vey, here we go again and now you want to trash eCogra at the same time. Sirius I will this leave thread open over the weekend and lets see how many REAL affiliates share your fervor about this issue.
I know there are four or five people who really arent affiliates who continually bray like donkeys and condemn every casino and every group online. They rail against eCogra, they condemn CAP and GPWA and many of us in the business individually. They find every possible fault with every possible casino and for reasons unknown they have maintained this negative agenda for years.
Honestly if there is nothing but negativity in online gaming and they dont enjoy the products and casinos being offered why in heavans name do they NOT move on and allow the rest of us who have a positive experience to do what we do in peace and without this constant hail of stones from the peanut gallery?
Have a good weekend and if all of this is so unbearable consider fishing (my favorite passtime) or a good game of golf. :hattip:
Sirius, I don’t know.
All I know is that I get no player complaints about that group and hence my visitors on my site are well taken care of at Belle Rock. That is what my job is, to take good care of my visitors. It keeps me busy enough for sure.
Perhaps you need to publish all this on your website so your visitors know what you think. That’s what your website is there for, to serve your visitors.
We deal with Referback here, not with Belle Rock.
If you want to post and get an answer from Belle Rock you have to post at Meister.
Why are you continuing to harp on this? Obviously it is leading no place.
I am starting to think you have some private beef and agenda here.
Sirius I just want to clarify in my mini rant above I wasnt refering specifically to you. I was refering to a very small, but very vocal cadre of haters who tend to fan any flames they can find. My thinking was they may be leading you to believe this issue has traction with the majority of affiliates when it doesnt.
I have been posting on casino message boards since 1999 (starting on winneronline) and I’ve always posted the same way. I’ve uncovered rigged casinos and lots of injustices. If you want to search my posts at Casinomeister you can (I can’t even do that myself) and also winneronline.
This is obviously an affliate issue but people don’t seem to realise it and the facts I’m stating should speak for themselves. Although I’ve been emailing eCOGRA without reply (my emails didn’t bounce) at least it seems they have been listening since the terms are now dated which is something I mentioned in the email as it’s a requirement. They are dated yesterday which to me seems like a ploy to again not reveal when 5.6 was added since the new terms seem superfluous at best (found by comparing the terms as the changes are not indicated). You can see the three new terms on the winneronline thread but one they added seemed to contradict others : “1.1.8.You may not open and maintain more than one account at any point in time.” since it will mean only one account across the group and the others are also slightly strange.
I’ve already asked Dominique for an opinion about my other issues with Referback so I don’t know why she is stating that she’s ‘starting to think you have some private beef and agenda here’ when I know she knows more than she’s letting on as I have informed her of problems which are unresolved (which wasn’t replied to). That is nothing to do with this complaint and anyone should realise this. It’s ridiculous to think otherwise.
Remember, when people search for BelleRock they find my site. Even that recent player who lost 30k there did the same thing after a google search and never returned. I now have a warning on those same pages saying they may soon be blacklisted due to the player issues. This is nothing to do with any other issues. I could have been sending bellerock lots of highly qualified traffic like I have done in previous months. Now they are not getting the clicks due to the warning. If I was a greedy affiliate I would not care about the player issues would I?
So of course I’m a real affiliate, you can ask Referback about that since my players there have deposited and wagered millions. My site is over 5 years old and I have a whole network of related watchdog sites now.
If your players have deposited and wagered millions at Referback clients then they must enjoy the casinos. Again if your players deposited millions at Referback client casinos then you as a real affiliate earned hundreds of thousands of dollars, so one would think you would have a much kinder view of the group.
I have been playing at Riverbelle and Lucky Nugget since 1999 and I have always been impressed with their professionalism and care for me as a player.
I too have earned hundreds of thousands with the Referback clients over the years, but I APPRECIATE that partnership and would not make it an ongoing campaign to drone on and on about a single bonus issue on every forum that would allow me to do so.
At the end of the day, as Dom pointed out, your issue is with a client casino of Referback; Bellerock. Its appropiate to discuss this for as long as you like at player communities such as Casinomeister.
As I said you get one more crack at this here. Then please join us in other conversations. If you are a real affiliate dont you have anything else to discuss with members of CAP then this one issue?
Sirius, BelleRock is a highly overvalued junkyard but it does not make sense any longer to discuss this matter in this forum, as I am not sure what you want to achieve with it? I am definetely interested in the story but you should write about it elsewhere.
Personally I, just like you, believe that affiliates need to understand what players think about the casinos they promote, but for most it is more important how the affiliate program works and performs.
ReferBack seems to be doing a good job as an affiliate program, so most affiliates are satisfied. Your website is there to protect and inform players, so would not it be much better to report about this matter on your own website and perhaps post a link over here, so everyone can follow up?I would definitely like a link to the website so I can follow your writings there.
