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- March 12, 2004 at 10:43 pm #584818AnonymousInactive
I dont like how your stats work.
It said I made 375.00 in CPA and then when you sent me my statement, you said nobody qualified cuz they didn’t deposit 50.00 or more, yet I had over 300 in deposits…..HOw can that be? SOMEONE had to have deposited more then 50.00.March 16, 2004 at 1:24 pm #646299AnonymousInactive
I believe i have sent you an explanation regarding this matter via email but i’m happy to give it to you again here so that other webmasters can also benefit.
The personal stats our affiliates see are accurate for the most part however what most webmasters unfortunately don’t allways realise is that it only shows the anticipated payment for the given period.
The reason for this is that these are simply raw stats that our own software registers through the affiliate’s account however its unable to automatically check if a new depositor has made a $50 or higher initial deposit and thus it automatically simply marks each new depositor as approved and counts the comission accordingly.
Each month before payment is due our accounting department manually goes through the RTG backend for each affiliate’s payment and checks how many of the new depositors have actually met the $50 or higher initial deposit criteria, deducts money for banned or fraudulent players and audits the payments accordingly. This is the main reason why the personal stats show only the anticipated payment.
If you wish i can send you via email the list of new depositors you had for the month of February complete with their initial deposit amounts.March 16, 2004 at 2:14 pm #646302
Slotchik how could a casino stay in business if they paid you $50 for players that deposit less then $50?
Let’s say you have 15 people deposit $20 each 15x$20=$300
Would you as a business person think it reasonable to pay out 15x$50 =$750 for $300 in business?
If you found someone that stupid whouldn’t it be easy to gather 15 people and say heres $30 deposit $20 at this casino and play some games. Keep $10 for your cut. I get $50 each so I make $20×15= $300 for my pocket. We all win…. Except the casino that just got scammed that is…
I am not saying this is what you did, I am saying that is why there is a minimum deposit requirement and why it’s totally fair and it makes good business sense.
As an honest affiliate you whouldn’t have any problems with that as almost all legitimate players deposit far more the $50. If they didnt none of us would be in this business.March 16, 2004 at 2:39 pm #646303AnonymousInactive
Obviously I agree with the professor.
It’s pure math.
It would be better if the stats adjusted more frequently, but there is no doubt that on CPA you cannot expect to be paid more than the person deposited.
Most programs reserve the right to change you from CPA to % at any time, and ROI is the base of that too.
For affililates with high value players CPA is a bad deal anyway, and for casinos a CPA deal with an affiliate who has low value players is a bad deal too.
Personally, I dislike CPA because it seems one party or the other loses.March 16, 2004 at 3:40 pm #646308AnonymousInactive
I’m not saying they SHOULD pay me, Professor, I’m saying the stats should SHOW what it is I’m getting paid. I think the initial deposit is crap!!! I should get paid my CPA when the player GETS TO THAT MINIMUM POINT that the casino is requesting. Say I have a player that deposits 20.00 INITIALLY, and then comes back and deposits 500.00 or MORE…whatever….and I get NOTHING for bringing in that player??? That’s what I’m saying….
I know my players for Gold Key deposited more then 300.00 in the month of February. Why wouldn’t I get my CPA for them?March 16, 2004 at 4:06 pm #646316
should get paid my CPA when the player GETS TO THAT MINIMUM POINT that the casino is requesting. Say I have a player that deposits 20.00 INITIALLY, and then comes back and deposits 500.00 or MORE…whatever….and I get NOTHING for bringing in that player??? That’s what I’m saying….
I totally agree with you. Once the players deposit exceeds the minimum amount then you SHOULD be paid for those players.
Jonathan whats the terms here?
I can understand if the player value is under the agreed minimum. But if the player makes additional deposits that push their value above the minimum then they are most likely legitimate players and I would think the affiliate would be paid the promised CPA.
Can you provide more input on this please?March 16, 2004 at 4:08 pm #646318AnonymousInactive
Thanks Professor. That is exactly what I’m asking.March 17, 2004 at 2:40 pm #646374AnonymousInactive
The criteria for earning a flatrate comission was indeed for a new depositor to be gained who would make an initial deposit of $50 or higher with their first deposit.
You have to understand that we have set this stipulation because of years long experience that showed us that players who usually deposit less then $50 (usually around $20-25) on their intial deposit most of the times never come back as returning depositors.
However i also do understand that this might seem too strict and unfair to some of our affiliates and since we want to be as competitive as possible and offer our affiliates the highest comission earning possibilities that we can i have talked to the Casino Manager about this issue and we have come to the
joint agreement that we will loosen our policy in this matter somewhat. From now on flatrate comissions will be payed out for each new depositor that deposits $50 or more in the first month they made their initial deposit. So as per example if a new player only deposits $20 his first time around but makes an additional deposit of $35 in his first month and thus reaches or exceeds $50 a comission will be payed out for him.
These changes will take effect immedately and will be reflected
appropriately starting from next month’s payments.March 17, 2004 at 6:11 pm #646388
:bigsmile:Thank You Jonathan!:bigsmile:
That is excellent news and I think it’s most fair to all involved.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:March 17, 2004 at 6:50 pm #646399AnonymousInactive
Thats great Jonathan but what about the 3 I brought in already???
I know I have at least 250.00 coming from that and it isnt fair if it isnt at least looked at for me. ThanksMarch 21, 2004 at 4:13 pm #646634AnonymousInactive
Jonathan you there?March 21, 2004 at 7:32 pm #646639AnonymousInactive
These changes will take effect immedately and will be reflected appropriately starting from next month’s payments.
That does not mean retroactively.March 22, 2004 at 1:13 am #646643AnonymousInactive
I’m asking Jonathan. It’s not fair that I brought in several hundred in deposits and got NOTHING for them. I’m sure you’d ask as well if it were you on CPA.March 22, 2004 at 2:26 pm #646664AnonymousInactive
Unfortunately these changes won’t be retroactive.