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I’ve know Brad for about 6 years. He’s a great guy. Honest as the day is long. That’s why I’m surprised at the way this thing is heading. That’s why I question if he’s still involved. I lost my cell phone and had my laptop stolen which had all my contact info fro my friends and associates. I last talked to Brad about stackpoker in Oct when he brought the tank down for the MSU VS. OSU game. I hooked him up with a tailgate so he could promote the business and at that time they were 30 days from launching.
As I mentioned before I would have given my last dime to Brad if he needed it when he was raising money, but he had raised enough money to get it started. Plus, brad’s been very successful and has done quite well for himself that if it was the money issues he would have put it up. I truly believe he was bought out. If the company started heading in a direction he didn’t believe in he would have sold out and gotten his monies and any investors that he brought in monies as well.
I would be totally surprised if brad was still involved.
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Or this was just a ploy to get thousands and thousands of emails of players interested in a 3D poker room so that they can sign them up for their other “completely unrelated” 3D poker room coming out in 3-4 months time without having to pay any affiliates…
Clark , thats 100% what i beleive and i know what room your talking about as they contacted me already to be an affiliate.
They just wanted to get as many players to sign up and get all of there info as possible, and are now going to launch a different room without having to pay 50% of the comission to the affiliates
That would be a big mistake. Could anyone be this stupid? Its’s easy to create enough bad “word of mouth” for a kinky site to make it impossible for them to succeed. I can have a couple hundred members post at 2+2 and several other forums and they will never succeed.
Could you pass on the info of the new site?
Certainly you would want to “out” this new site to all affiliates so we can act accordingly. Or are you just guessing, at this point?
My members (15,000) are very disappointed in all the promises Stacks made to us (2 – $1000 freerolls, Stacks apparel for deposits).
Shark wrote:That would be a big mistake. Could anyone be this stupid?It’s being done. Sportingbet did this.
Party Gaming and Tradal messed around with Empire affilates and still have all the affected casino affliliates left in the cold.
UB left all the Pokershare affliates in the cold.
As you see, even large, publicly held companies do this.
I have a different opinion on UB/Pokershare fiasco.
Pokershare was an unethical operator. They blatantly stole UB players (1000’s of them) and hoped that UB wouldn’t figure out what they were doing.
They were solicing UB players that didnt have rakeback deals to come to Pokershare affiliates and get a ” RB deal”. Many UB players didnt have deals (including me) since we signed up way before RB became huge.
Idiot Mgr Max Wright was way to aggressive and openly stole UB players and pushed affiliates to do the same. UB wouldnt stand for this and launched PS. He got what he deserved. If Max and PS would have worked harder to gain their own players instead of stealing UB players they would still be up with great software instead of in court with UB and restarting under Tain Software
http://www.tainpoker.com/docs/partners.html
I realize Party and Tradal have been a mess. I’m glad I never worked with them much. I got tired of their horrible affiliate support and mispelled form letters that arrived 2 weeks after I emailed them.
“it appears he is asking about private turn-ee’mants” that tis form ledder nummer 24. please wait 2 weeaks and respondee”
Party makes 1 million a day net and isn’t even sharp enough to hire good support that speaks english. They prefer to pay support people $4 an hour in India?
Regardless of what our take on UB/Pokershare (I have a different one), UB left countless affiliates in the cold when they closed Pokershare. Pokershare was a UB skin and they have some responsibility towards the affiliates that lost all of their referrals.
Dominique wrote:Regardless of what our take on UB/Pokershare (I have a different one), UB left countless affiliates in the cold when they closed Pokershare. Pokershare was a UB skin and they have some responsibility towards the affiliates that lost all of their referrals.Appreciate your frustration. I had a HUGE first month with Pokershare and would have preferred they stayed around. I had over 100 depositors there my first month.
But I can’t blame UB for leaning on the parent company (Excapsa) when Pokershare became a skin (like UB). I read every take on this fiasco. Here is the best info I could find. The poster “FOX” has many friends in the know at UB.
http://www.pocketfives.com/C647748D-FE8E-4FEC-BB5B-BAB6D7BA3C5A.aspx
Its old news but it may interest some affiliates. I don’t believe that Pokershare was ever a “skin” of UB as you stated. UB is just a very prominent “skin” of the Excapsa Network in Europe. The new skin decided to aggressively steal players from the top skin and got punished and banned from No. America. If you have another take I would be glad to hear it.
There are rumors that UB owns excaps as well as ecomaccess and several more companies, not the other way around. But it doesn’t really matter, it’s off topic.
And I really have no business in this thread, I don’t know much about Stacks.
I was just commenting that some places have no scruples as far as breaking contracts with affiliates.
Ok to stop the confusion.
First I am the owner of StacksPokerOnline.com. That’s my post that was quoted starting this thread. I am also Brandon over at PAW. If you are a member there you know everything I did for stacks.
This is what I know…
Brad was an investor in the company and got them off the ground, he is a INCREDIBLE GUY. We spoke everyday and even started into our own business adventures. He left and things went down hill. Kevin took over and that’s when every deadline was missed. I do not think its Kevin’s fault, but I do think if Brad was still with the day to day operations it would be different.
Stacks had every intention in building a poker room, they were not in it for the mass emails. I did a lot of work with them behind the scenes and know what their real goals were. They started out great and had a lot of momentum, but then with a bad business structure missed every deadline and had poor communication. So three weeks ago they disappeared. They did not respond to anyone’s emails or phone calls. I was very displeased after EVERYTHING I did for them they would not contact me and tell me what’s up.
I received word from Brad a couple days ago to hold off promotions until he could talk to the guys, so Ill keep you updated on that. I am moving on though, I have spent to many hours with them to see no returns. I believe if they even tried to come back, it would be to late.
Hope that clears the air
Thanks for your insight.
Kevin is a loser and an idiot. “Not his fault”? Give me a break.
It would have taken 30 minutes to email all his affiliates 3 weeks ago so we could all take down stacks banners and terminate promoting them in emails and online.
How bout all the time wasted calling him and emailing stacks to get an update in the last 3 weeks?
I have no problem with someone failing in business. It happens all the time. They lied about what they could deliver (delay after delay) then when the money ran out they didn’t care enough about all the affiliates to send us an email or make a few phone calls.
Sounds like you are very impressed with Brad. I’m not. Sounds to me like when the going got tough the tough left town and left losers to run the failing business. Great guy. You talked to him a few days ago. He hasn’t made an attempt to contact his largest affiliate (me) or anyone else. INCREDIBLE guy.
You are entitled to your opinion and i’m sorry you got the shaft along with me.
Brad did his job and when finished moved on, nothing more to say there. He did not leave them to burn, he completed his duties and then with out him they faltered.
I still don’t know anything about what happened so until I do I am going to refrain from calling anyone one out. Am I mad? Hell yes I was also a very large affiliate for them and helped them get their affiliate program going.
But like we all know in the business world, you win some you lose some, now I am going to move on and start a new project.
