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August 4, 2009 at 10:27 pm #802821
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InactiveIt all depends. The last few months are the slowest and with football season around the corner, your fortunes may turn. I don’t know which country/continent you advertise to, but should be the same everywhere.
As a rule of thumb – don’t advertise sports betting and casino on the same program. Due to the negative carryovers you are bound to surrender you casino wins to your sports betting loses (or vice versa).
Also, if you advertise to a country with legal online sports betting – always go with sportsbook that does not carry over, this is very important.
August 4, 2009 at 11:42 pm #802823
WineGuyMemberdoyoweb, I see you are advertising Bet365… OK so am I, and let me tell you, the past couple of weeks, my stats have been showing HUGE turnovers resulting in HUGE player wins….. meaning HUGE negative balances for me.
It will be interesting to see what the next few weeks bring.
But it looks weird, maybe a glitch in the system?August 5, 2009 at 5:12 am #802826Anonymous
Inactive@doyoweb 208071 wrote:
recently I had a bad time in sports betting, I am thinking about is sports betting a long term player lose game? or if the players are expert on examine the statistics, and that will make a player long term win game?
my players are winning on sports betting in this overall 3 months, is the sports easy to win in this 3 months? and the turnover is getting bigger and bigger, I am quite curious that they will destroy my affiliate account(since this is negative carry over , and casino poker all in one account ), or I will finally get big profit..
can somebody who is predecessor tell me how this is going to be?
thank you very much!:hattip:
Sports b can be a volatile business.
The problem is that its usually a recreational player that wins a big parlay or the links and wipes you out.
It is a lot more volatile than casino in my opinion.
My advice is to spread your sports betting traffic around as much as you can. You can take a lot of pain if you end up getting profits fro ma lot of players wiped by a guy who nails a crazy multi bet.
August 5, 2009 at 5:14 am #802827Anonymous
Inactive@Stupid 208077 wrote:
It all depends. The last few months are the slowest and with football season around the corner, your fortunes may turn. I don’t know which country/continent you advertise to, but should be the same everywhere.
As a rule of thumb – don’t advertise sports betting and casino on the same program. Due to the negative carryovers you are bound to surrender you casino wins to your sports betting loses (or vice versa).
Also, if you advertise to a country with legal online sports betting – always go with sportsbook that does not carry over, this is very important.
Very good point in bold.
Which are the books that don’t carry over?
August 5, 2009 at 1:17 pm #802839Anonymous
InactiveI would dump Bet365 right away if I were you… Actually I did and here is why – I was doing rather well with them, until the start of this year, when I landed a player who started winning big and I mean BIG. How big you ask? Well, last month’s commission was 45,000+ pounds and I am still about 20,000 pounds under ( I have no idea what this guy bet on in July?!?). Before this guy showed up I was never concerned about carry-overs, but the more players you bring the better chance to land big winners like this one…
UniBet is an example of aff program that doesn’t carry over negatives, plus you can go as high as 40% with them. InterWetten and Betsson, just to name a few, don’t carry over either. There are plenty of programs to choose from in sports betting – there is no need to advertise one that does carry over and risk running on red for months.
August 5, 2009 at 3:10 pm #802842
pokertuneMemberjustred;208085 wrote:Very good point in bold.Which are the books that don’t carry over?
Hi:
betinternet has no carry over.Michael
August 6, 2009 at 3:24 am #802862
StarBucksSportsMemberNo Negatives carried over here at Canbet
August 16, 2009 at 1:46 am #803158
FoptssqgMemberBaseball has been really bad lately. Tons of favorites winning has caused many aff accounts to go negative.
Dont fear though, college football and nfl are coming.
August 16, 2009 at 2:54 am #803160
affmgrlistedtestMemberStupid;208102 wrote:UniBet is an example of aff program that doesn’t carry over negatives, plus you can go as high as 40% with them. InterWetten and Betsson, just to name a few, don’t carry over either. There are plenty of programs to choose from in sports betting – there is no need to advertise one that does carry over and risk running on red for months.I am affiliate for unibet and they dont carry negative over the mont, and they seperate casino an sportbetting. Good for me as I have BIg winner on casino which is negative 10 times the positive on sportsbook 😮
August 20, 2009 at 9:53 am #803299
bardotMemberdoyoweb;208071 wrote:recently I had a bad time in sports betting, I am thinking about is sports betting a long term player lose game? or if the players are expert on examine the statistics, and that will make a player long term win game?my players are winning on sports betting in this overall 3 months, is the sports easy to win in this 3 months? and the turnover is getting bigger and bigger, I am quite curious that they will destroy my affiliate account(since this is negative carry over , and casino poker all in one account ), or I will finally get big profit..
can somebody who is predecessor tell me how this is going to be?
I can only tell you my experiences of running a bookmaker for three years several years ago. We always did badly over the summer months. I found it was mainly because, in our case, most of our turnover was on uk horseracing and the summer months were much easier for punters. The form is more reliable as the ground conditions are more consistent. We always found that things really picked up in terms of profit from September onwards. We did not close any winning accounts as we knew things would turn in our favour and I hope the sportsbooks you (and we) promote follow that policy too. The fact you have big turnover is good. Be patient. It will come around. To be able to earn consistently as a bookmaker turnover is essential. I keep being told (even by one affiliate manager from a major firm recently) that it is ‘so easy for punters to win on sports.’ Total rubbish. If punters are consistently winning then it will turn and, however shrewd, if they are betting with a sportsbook they will end up down. The margins are always against them. Very few are capable of making any money. I loved big punters on favourites – they will never win in the end. I dont know if you ever see the audited accounts for the big bookmakers like ladbrokes and william hill and the hundreds of millions they make each year on sports betting (yet you never hear of a losing punter!). And their PR departments love to say when they have apparently “lost” on a big event. It keeps the money rolling in if punters can believe they can win over time. But over time the bookmaker will have the last laugh. So to summarise: your big turnover is good. Be patient. If the players continue to play, and their winnings will encourage them to do just that, it will all come back to you and more. I am having a really terrible August too, but never lose your nerve.
September 6, 2009 at 7:50 am #803793
MadarasDavoskoMemberFrom what I’ve heard from many in the Sports side is that this summer has been particularly hard in reference to getting smacked on baseball – but the good news is that football is so far looking great and we’re just getting started.
September 6, 2009 at 2:26 pm #803804Anonymous
InactiveIts tough if you only cater to No. American audience. All books that allow Americans or Canadians will wipe your slate. This week alone I went from being down 11k on one account to 80k. Someone won 69k in one week.
September 8, 2009 at 9:32 am #803853Anonymous
InactiveSports.com;209474 wrote:From what I’ve heard from many in the Sports side is that this summer has been particularly hard in reference to getting smacked on baseball – but the good news is that football is so far looking great and we’re just getting started.MLB was a bi%&^ this season. Only hoping football season goes well…
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