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June 27, 2007 at 4:09 pm #603551AnonymousInactive
so are these guys safe or what ?
does anyone know anything about them ?
as i was thinking about promoting, but the thread about non / late payments doesnt look very good for them.
Hmmmmm, just read their program, so they base comission on the amount of new players, but a new player is only someone who deposits $50 or more…
i hate it when places pull stunts like this (i can understand it for CPA, but not revshare) Im mean a new real money player is someone who deposits and plays.
from looking at my other casino stats, the overall net spend per player is well over $500, but i see alot of players deposit $20, $25, $30 and never play again (as i think with casino you get lots of low rollers and lots of high rollers and not much in the middle)
Its stuff like this that make me wonder about affiliate programs if they’re in it to make a quickie or for the long haul.
So what do you guys think ?June 27, 2007 at 4:28 pm #740921AnonymousInactive
Thanks for pointing this out.
I was thinking about signing up too, due to all the talk about them here lately, but that $50 minimum thing is a deal breaker for me. It shouldn’t matter how much the player deposits — without me, they wouldn’t have that player in the first place.
Also, I don’t like commission structures that are based on the number of depositing players. What if I refer one or two high rollers? I would be stuck at the bottom commission tier, apparently. Had I referred these players to a program with a normal rev-share commission structure, I could be taking home 35% or more.
Or, say I send a boatload of players to Rushmore in one month, enough to put me at the high end of the commission structure. The next month, I send zero players. My players from the previous month continue to make hefty deposits — but since I didn’t refer any new players in the current month, my commission reverts back to the lowest tier. D’oh! In this case, again, I would be better off if I had sent the players to a program that has a regular rev-share structure that is based on the amount deposited, not on the number of new players referred.June 27, 2007 at 4:51 pm #740925AnonymousInactive
yeah i agree, unless you send load of very small value players each, you will lose out on every other scenario with that comission model.
Oh well, i really liked the look of their casino too – their loss……June 27, 2007 at 6:24 pm #740933AnonymousInactive
How can you say bad things about a casino without testing it first ?
We’ve been working with rushmore since day one. Can’t say a bad word about them. Support is great, casino looks amazing, clicks to players conversion is highest i’ve ever seen. Now they launched new slots landing page, which looks so good i’m sure we gonna make tons of $$ with it.
Regarding payment. I know other affiliates who promote rushmore and we all never had any problems. Wire transfers or other kinds of payment are always on time.June 27, 2007 at 6:37 pm #740937AnonymousInactive
dont need to test the casino to figure out if their comission structure sucks.
and what bad things did we say about the “Casino” anyways.
looks like your defending them with your heart and not your head
Also you say “Regarding payment. I know other affiliates who promote rushmore and we all never had any problems. Wire transfers or other kinds of payment are always on time.”
well theres a whole thread here about them paying late….
I have stated facts while your stating your opinionJune 27, 2007 at 6:59 pm #740943AnonymousInactive
I promote them “with my heart”, becouse I make a lot of money with rushmore. Right now Golden and Rushmore are my two top casinos. I don’t care about some “tricks” in T&C, i care about $$ on my bank account. I never read T&C, i always test casinos in real life. This is the only way you can benchmark affiliate program.June 27, 2007 at 7:18 pm #740946AnonymousInactive
@eclipse 129269 wrote:
I promote them “with my heart”, becouse I make a lot of money with rushmore. Right now Golden and Rushmore are my two top casinos. I don’t care about some “tricks” in T&C, i care about $$ on my bank account. I never read T&C, i always test casinos in real life. This is the only way you can benchmark affiliate program.
Sorry to ‘jump in’ on this thread However, T&C’s are obviously VERY important – just check my sig if you don’t understand why I believe this.
I can understand your answer of working based upon what you see and feel. I have no problems with that whatsoever… But to say ‘I never read T&C’ – this is not something I can agree with.
This is your contract with the affiliate program.. and if there are terms and conditions they can use to reduce your commissions – you should be VERY aware of it for many reasons…
Affiliate managers change, affiliate programs have money crunches, and many, many, many programs use these exact terms to NOT pay affiliates.
That is my rant I have nothing against the casino, but will certainly evaluate their terms and conditions and (based upon what others have mentioned here) their terms are very likely to be deemed highly predatory.