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I have thousands out with these clowns. Countless emails, no word back and it appears Playtech can give a crap about them continuing under license and not PAYING.
The only one on this list I ever partnered with was Bookmaker. When Scott was with them (BetCris) back in the day, although I never did much with them I was treated well.
When their terms changed and became utterly ridiculous I decided to drop them; Scott was gone when that happened.
I don’t know if their rouge, but they are not affiliate friendly.
I haven’t had any dealings with too many rogue merchants to date, as I tend to stick to the main brands. However, I did have some trouble with Mecca Bingo / Rank on their own programme around 18 months to 2 years ago after they suspended my account.
The suspension was due to a change in their T&C’s, requiring the level of my new subscribers to be above a certain level. I did have a nice regular income from the users I had signed up to their program but, going forward, it’s a programme that I would stay away from and be wary of. I don’t think that they’re a CAP certified program, but maybe others could correct me if I’m wrong?
There are plenty of other reliable Bingo operators to choose from in this space, either Rev share or CPA based, so it just means that my main traffic has now gone to alternative merchants.
It can take a while to rebuild the income stream after a “commission for life” type program revokes your status, but the best of my bingo merchants are already CAP certified which does give a level of added reassurance going forward.
@bluetoffee 239854 wrote:
I haven’t had any dealings with too many rogue merchants to date, as I tend to stick to the main brands. However, I did have some trouble with Mecca Bingo / Rank on their own programme around 18 months to 2 years ago after they suspended my account.
The suspension was due to a change in their T&C’s, requiring the level of my new subscribers to be above a certain level. I did have a nice regular income from the users I had signed up to their program but, going forward, it’s a programme that I would stay away from and be wary of. I don’t think that they’re a CAP certified program, but maybe others could correct me if I’m wrong?
There are plenty of other reliable Bingo operators to choose from in this space, either Rev share or CPA based, so it just means that my main traffic has now gone to alternative merchants.
It can take a while to rebuild the income stream after a “commission for life” type program revokes your status, but the best of my bingo merchants are already CAP certified which does give a level of added reassurance going forward.
Absolutely!
I determined to stay to with CAP approved programs (with rare exceptions) because I know the program will be solid as well as getting great support from CAP. There are plenty of good programs out there but a few lousy crooks brings down the reputation of everyone.
Subverting “commission for life” T&C’s is NEVER acceptable.
Changing terms like requiring a minimum number of players is also primarily the same thing. It is incomprehensibly ignorant.
Here’s another dumb ass email excerpt from ladbrokes “In order to conduct this procedure we would need you to send across your bank details on a company letter headed paper” WTF
@bud405n 239849 wrote:
The only one on this list I ever partnered with was Bookmaker. When Scott was with them (BetCris) back in the day, although I never did much with them I was treated well.
When their terms changed and became utterly ridiculous I decided to drop them; Scott was gone when that happened.
I don’t know if their rouge, but they are not affiliate friendly.
Thanks for sharing the experience, Buddy… And such a bummer you had to deal with that.
On another note, it’s been a while… Been trying to get in touch with you. PM me or Email me when you have a chance so we can connect
@rmeeuwsen 239869 wrote:
Absolutely!
I determined to stay to with CAP approved programs (with rare exceptions) because I know the program will be solid as well as getting great support from CAP. There are plenty of good programs out there but a few lousy crooks brings down the reputation of everyone.
Subverting “commission for life” T&C’s is NEVER acceptable.
Changing terms like requiring a minimum number of players is also primarily the same thing. It is incomprehensibly ignorant.
Here’s another dumb ass email excerpt from ladbrokes “In order to conduct this procedure we would need you to send across your bank details on a company letter headed paper” WTF
Bluetoffee… thanks for sharing your info. YIKES! What a nightmare!
And rmeeuwsen, thanks for giving a “shout out” to the CAP Directory. Obviously this may seem bias, but our team really digs in deep when they’re talking with programs, and they don’t just let anyone come on board to get into the directory. Bottom line, we want to do everything possible to connect affiliates with strong programs that will make them money
@bluetoffee 239854 wrote:
I haven’t had any dealings with too many rogue merchants to date, as I tend to stick to the main brands. However, I did have some trouble with Mecca Bingo / Rank on their own programme around 18 months to 2 years ago after they suspended my account.
The suspension was due to a change in their T&C’s, requiring the level of my new subscribers to be above a certain level. I did have a nice regular income from the users I had signed up to their program but, going forward, it’s a programme that I would stay away from and be wary of. I don’t think that they’re a CAP certified program, but maybe others could correct me if I’m wrong?
There are plenty of other reliable Bingo operators to choose from in this space, either Rev share or CPA based, so it just means that my main traffic has now gone to alternative merchants.
It can take a while to rebuild the income stream after a “commission for life” type program revokes your status, but the best of my bingo merchants are already CAP certified which does give a level of added reassurance going forward.
You could try to contact them again – I had my Bluesq aff account reopened as they have a new affiliate manager that seems pretty cool! Just a heads up, might be the same at all Rank companies.
I don’t about rogue, but I will throw Uffiliates name in the mix. Program stats are usless and an absolute joke and now my account is blocked.
I hate this sort of dealing. Bingo Mania now requires something like 2 new players / 3 months. It is horse crap but I’ve managed to keep it up. I’m literally going to start having operators sign the terms when I sign up and amend it so that it cannot be changed without mutual approval.
@bluetoffee 239854 wrote:
I haven’t had any dealings with too many rogue merchants to date, as I tend to stick to the main brands. However, I did have some trouble with Mecca Bingo / Rank on their own programme around 18 months to 2 years ago after they suspended my account.
The suspension was due to a change in their T&C’s, requiring the level of my new subscribers to be above a certain level. I did have a nice regular income from the users I had signed up to their program but, going forward, it’s a programme that I would stay away from and be wary of. I don’t think that they’re a CAP certified program, but maybe others could correct me if I’m wrong?
There are plenty of other reliable Bingo operators to choose from in this space, either Rev share or CPA based, so it just means that my main traffic has now gone to alternative merchants.
It can take a while to rebuild the income stream after a “commission for life” type program revokes your status, but the best of my bingo merchants are already CAP certified which does give a level of added reassurance going forward.
