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Hi BB1,
It is important … it means the end of the internet as we know it.
It means you can apply for .vegas as an extension and sell
or use all the domains before it. It will turn the internet upside down and
backwards literally.
:hattip:
what a scam.
question: so does this mean we’ll all be bidding for .gambling, .vegas etc?
who gets all this profit?
this really is a let down. I thought at least the domain registars were above corruption for some stupid reason.
@bb1webs 167029 wrote:
what a scam.
question: so does this mean we’ll all be bidding for .gambling, .vegas etc?
who gets all this profit?
this really is a let down. I thought at least the domain registars were above corruption for some stupid reason.
The money makers in all this will be ICANN, the registrars, some Big
corporations, some lucky individuals, and even search engines like
Google since it will create confusion the likes that has not been seen since
Babel … some premium .com owners are already talking lawsuits against
ICANN to stop the madness … it will be interesting to see how it all
plays out.
Good or bad, right or wrong, what I do like is the fact that they are insisting on business plans which along with potentially high prices could at least mean the domains end up in the right hands rather than PPC squatters.
Traditionally it takes the SE’s a while to catch up on domains – this throws the cat mong the pidgeons with people like Google who rely on domain extensions for localised search. Clearly generics like “football” could cause issues as to which markets are better suited to the domain. Many of the current generic crop of domain like “.biz”, “.info” etc still carry no weight in SERPS, ages after they were launched.
looks kinda strange LOL
casinolas.vegas
online.gamblingIt will look even stranger when we will see casino.com complete against
.casino
@Simmo! 167042 wrote:
Good or bad, right or wrong, what I do like is the fact that they are insisting on business plans which along with potentially high prices could at least mean the domains end up in the right hands rather than PPC squatters.
Traditionally it takes the SE’s a while to catch up on domains – this throws the cat mong the pidgeons with people like Google who rely on domain extensions for localised search. Clearly generics like “football” could cause issues as to which markets are better suited to the domain. Many of the current generic crop of domain like “.biz”, “.info” etc still carry no weight in SERPS, ages after they were launched.
Oh yes this is great for everybody, it’s a fair and balanced system that
ensures that Big Corporations get the best keywords.
:sarcasm:
@aleph 167045 wrote:
Oh yes this is great for everybody, it’s a fair and balanced system that
ensures that Big Corporations get the best keywords.
:sarcasm:
Possible, but not necessarily – $100k (which may only apply to a few select domains anyway) is hardly out of the reach of serious small business or even an individual. And the business plan idea is a good approach in that regard. Even if it did, it strikes me one purpose of this is to ensure a domain’s potential is maximised. It sounds like it’s following the .tv standard in pricing by the way which seemed to work quite well in ensuring domains ended up in the hands of people that used them properly.
It’s all speculation right now anyway but if it helps improve the Internet user’s experience, that can only be an advantage. If it doesn’t then it’s either mismanaged or as many will no doubt assume from the off, it’s about money.
@Simmo! 167047 wrote:
Possible, but not necessarily – $100k (which may only apply to a few select domains anyway) is hardly out of the reach of serious small business or even an individual. And the business plan idea is a good approach in that regard. Even if it did, it strikes me one purpose of this is to ensure a domain’s potential is maximised. It sounds like it’s following the .tv standard in pricing by the way which seemed to work quite well in ensuring domains ended up in the hands of people that used them properly.
It’s all speculation right now anyway but if it helps improve the Internet user’s experience, that can only be an advantage. If it doesn’t then it’s either mismanaged or as many will no doubt assume from the off, it’s about money.
$100,000 is the base starting point … the best domains will be auctioned out
… you have to ensure proper technical expertise which has been estimated
to cost in the millions by some experts.
Hi all,
I seldom disagree with you Simmo but this time I think you got it all wrong.
there’s nothing good about setting up a system that totally cuts the little guy out. That was what made the net great.
Ya only the big money will have the resources to even compete for top domains ….. this really makes me sick.
So basically those behind all this set things up so they got almost every cent possible squeezed out of the .com , got a pretty good chunk of .org and .net … and now that they’ve capitalized on all that as much as possible they turn around and make all those domains that were worth so much … not looking so good now …
and clean up on releasing all those possibilities.
Nobody knows what or how the SEs will handle this but I’m betting they give preference to gambling.gambling for the keywords gambling and similar … over what they’re gonna give you points for a domain like fredsgambling.com
this really is disheartening to find out. I hope its not as big a fiasco as I suspect it might be.
Hi BBS
I wasn’t actually saying it’s right or wrong – in both posts I suggested it may be one or the other…merely trying to point out that at the moment its all speculation and the coin could drop either way but I think it’s right in any speculative debate to point out it has two potential ways of falling, hence why I thought the other side was worth a quick look to check it wasn’t a two-headed coin
Cheers
Simmo!
sorry if I sounded too strong. if it was … it wasn’t aimed at you Simmo, … I am still reelin’ from this news as I don’t see a whole lot of good to come from it but I sure see a whole lot of possible bad coming from it.
Its like my worst fears of the net are coming true, except in my vision the search engines on top of what they do now, … become affiliates to every possible niche and of course put their links up first for any search remotely close to what they’re selling.
I’m not so sure this won’t have a similar effect. And the part about having to have a business plan … . really scary stuff. Like ….. lets not only rape them financially but lets also make sure its “our kind of people” that get control of these major domains.
and I bet they push all this thru before enough people wake up and say stop and once they get it done its done.
The new domains could cost as much as $100,000 to register, and will require a large amount of recourses to maintain.
Re-reading this, I think whoever wrote this has got confused. I think he/she is referring to running the TLD for the .anything itself. The BBC has an article on it at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7475986.stm and I think there’s a similar misconception because in there it says:
However, the cost of setting up a domain – at least initially – will be an expensive business.
and…
Individuals will be able to register a domain based on their own name, for example, as long as they can show a “business plan and technical capacity“.
“Setting up“…”Technical capacity“? To have a domain name? No way. They are referring to the registrar who sets up and sells the TLD IMO.
I think so too, I think you are buying the rights to the .whatever , and most people will resell the resulting domains like a registrar.
Applications Fees will cost be between $100,000 – $500,000 NON-
REFUNDABLE.
You must prove technical competence to run the registry which some estimate
can run into millions. This is designed for Big Corporations.
The internet is being catalogued and sold to Big Money interests.
All the domains in the new TLD can be kept, sold at whatever price
the owner pleases or rented. The best TLDs will be auctioned to the highest
bidder. Good luck with your application.
:rolleyes:
