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June 15, 2007 at 11:29 am #603329AnonymousGuest
I’m a reasonable person ….. but RB has sucked air for far to long.
anybody else seeing same?
I’ve already pulled all their links but a few but considering my long-time relations with them …. i should be seeing far beyond the income i’m seeing …. which currently sits at a whopping $8.
ya……I’m pissed.June 15, 2007 at 12:07 pm #739733AnonymousInactive
They’re actually doing really great for me. I’ve been working on increasing their presence on my sites, based on how well they’re doing compared to the minimal amount of exposure I’ve been giving them.June 15, 2007 at 12:14 pm #739734AnonymousInactive
I’m thinking the same recently.
The download/customer ratio seems very poor.
And looking at my stats this year there are as many closes as new accounts.
But it’s hard to drop them when they have done so well in the past.
Will see how this month pans out..June 15, 2007 at 12:20 pm #739735
They have been preforming nicely for me all year. The number of conversions for new players is lower then I would like, but overall income is strong.
Another important note is they have an excellent track record with players and their affiliate managers go above and beyond in terms of support.June 15, 2007 at 12:40 pm #739739AnonymousGuest
Hi again all,
well I’m trying to give them benefit of doubt but it is a downfall monh after month.
certainly not a reason for increasing their exposure. $8 freaking dollars. was about the same last month.
I am an old timer. i should be getting great expectations regardless of their exposure. I did great with them for a year and half when I took them down completely. make me wonder about their new owners.
time is growing short with them. either make an effort,……. show some results or get my rath.
I’m to that point.June 15, 2007 at 12:52 pm #739742
BB1 if you aent making money with them then drop them and move on. There are probably a hundred programs or more that I have done that with over the years. Their isn’t much use dwelling on it and wasting time and emotional stress over it.
Here is a simple formula that works:
1. Work with the Programs that are profitable for YOU
2. Drop the programs that arent profitable for you and add in others until you find a succesful combination.
3. If you previosuly did well with a program and for whatever reason that ceases to be the case give them several months to ensure it isnt a temporary situation. If they still arent doing well, then its time to move on. I have had to do this with a number of my previous strong earners. Its unpleasant, but its whats necessary as a business move.June 15, 2007 at 1:01 pm #739744AnonymousGuest
thank you Prof.
it is good advice. but I have been with RB thru hard tmes and nearly sincethe beginning. I am trying to give them every op to prove themselves.
anyhow ….. thanks for the advice.June 15, 2007 at 1:02 pm #739746AnonymousGuest
oh, also,…… I should be getting signups from previous signups since once signed … always yours.June 15, 2007 at 1:09 pm #739748
Same here with me and others I did well with for years like Casino Rewards. Do you want to see some thing that really sucks?
My Casino Rewards Performance in March of 2007 versus 2006
March 2006 Earnings $18,726
March 2007 Earnings $585
I reported this major drop off in March and April and asked for help to get back up to speed. When I didnt see improvement by May I basically removed 95% of their banners and links from my sites and moved on. I havent been badgering them since. I earned GREAT money with CR for years, but when the bottom fell out I had to decide to refocus my efforts on other brands. Its a pisser no doubt, but its what we have to do from time to time.June 15, 2007 at 1:14 pm #739749Quote:oh, also,…… I should be getting signups from previous signups since once signed … always yours.
Agreed… I should also be earnining money from the hundreds of players I had signed up in the past too at various programs, but that isnt always the case. I spent years building up the following brands to 5 figure monthly incomes and watched them vanish almost overnight:
Most were a direct result in the changes in the laws in the US, and I accept that. I dont like it, but I understand it.
BB1 we are all taking a hit with UIGEA, it doesnt mean good programs suddenly suck or deserve a public beating. It means we have to change our strategies and marketing plans and adapt to the new market coniditons.June 15, 2007 at 2:41 pm #739758AnonymousInactiveProfessor wrote:BB1 we are all taking a hit with UIGEA, it doesnt mean good programs suddenly suck or deserve a public beating. It means we have to change our strategies and marketing plans and adapt to the new market coniditons.
Agreed. The industry is in flux and when we emerge from this, one way or another, we will see who stuck it out during the bad times and made it through.
I think it is a time for all of us to stand firm together, to support each other and to flow with the punches in unison.
It is too easy to blame our partners, let’s not forget who the real bad guys are in this.
Things are just not the same since UIGEA, and I am quite sure all the programs wish things were back to what they were prior to prohibition.
Let’s each concentrate on making it all work (US affiliates, get political, call your congressman!!!!!!) and on guiding our sites through the quagmire. That goes for affiliates and programs alike.
I think placing the blame on our partners now is denial and also counterproductive.
The US has thrown a huge block into our industry. Sometimes you will see the more ethical programs doing worse – they are not signing up players when they don’t know how to process their winnings. My hat off to these programs! :hattip: I vote for ethics over greed any day. These places will emerge without having lost the trust of players. We do have to look at the big picture here, at the future.June 15, 2007 at 7:08 pm #739821AnonymousInactiveProfessor wrote:BB1 we are all taking a hit with UIGEA, it doesnt mean good programs suddenly suck or deserve a public beating. It means we have to change our strategies and marketing plans and adapt to the new market coniditons.
ReferBack is a microgaming program.. so i will talk about Microgaming only.
Microgaming programs that performed well for me before the UIGEA are still converting players.
When it rains, we all get wet.. therefor i can’t say conversions are like they used to be but the programs that did best before the UIGEA.. are still my best performers after the UIGEA.
ReferBack never performed well for me.. I got tierd of seeing the constant $0 in my stats and dropped them. This doesn’t mean this isn’t a good program.June 16, 2007 at 1:17 am #739861AnonymousInactive
Once the new US laws to regulate the industry go through, these companies who are not performing well will have no place to be promoted by us. The way I look at it… Screw me now, I’ll screw you later.June 16, 2007 at 2:19 am #739865AnonymousInactive
Referback hasn’t done well for me for many months now. It used to do ok.. until about the time they removed Showdown.
Strangely enough, out of the past 8 months or so, May was probably my best month. Not that it was fantastic…… but it really picked up. I figured maybe because they added Ecocard and also because of the new tournament feature.