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December 18, 2009 at 11:39 am #806663
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InactiveAs in every walk of life, the “privileged few” will always get away with murder. The bottom line is that many sites don’t care how they are getting their traffic, as long as they do. And if these super-affiliates are breaking the rules, well, um, they will turn the other cheek and grant “an exception”. Sure this is B.S., but the entire rakeback scene has lent itself to it. You don’t think sites that have explicit directions on how perspective players should delete all cookies on their system, isn’t hitting below the belt ? Rakeback, along with legalization of the industry, will be the 2 reasons that this industry eventually comes to its knees, in the long-run.
December 18, 2009 at 12:38 pm #806665Anonymous
InactiveWhat’s parasite hosting?
I have said since it’s inception that rakeback is a bad system.
Basing your income on theft of players from other affiliates is not something I can condone.
Rakeback is nice for the player, however, and it should be administered by the poker rooms themselves, not affiliates.
I know Cake doesn’t allow rakeback, do all the others above allow it?
I disagree that legalization of the industry will bring it to its knees, but that’s another discussion and maybe you want to start a thread on that.
December 18, 2009 at 1:14 pm #806670Anonymous
InactiveDominique,
I agree on your rakeback comment…..I don’t think it helps our industry at all, yet, provides players with competitive rates (akin to financial discount brokers). I know that AP/UB permit it, but you have to ask your AM for special privilege AND you have to manage the rakeback money transactions yourself, which can always be problematic.
I didn’t mean to clutter this thread with an off-topic comment about legalization. I have ranted about this on other threads, and will continue to do so, if/when the possibility for US legalization exists.
December 18, 2009 at 3:15 pm #806671Anonymous
InactiveStill wondering about parasite hosting – does it mean hosting parasites on your server or parasitic occupancy of someone elses server?
December 18, 2009 at 3:27 pm #806673Anonymous
InactiveFrom Wiki – “Parasite hosting is the process of hosting a site on someone else’s server without their consent, generally for the purpose of search engine benefit.”
December 18, 2009 at 6:40 pm #806677Anonymous
InactiveThanks
Guess I better start daily checks.December 19, 2009 at 12:56 am #806680Anonymous
InactiveCake does accept rakeback don’t they?
December 19, 2009 at 12:57 am #806681Anonymous
Inactive@Poker Dude 213779 wrote:
From Wiki – “Parasite hosting is the process of hosting a site on someone else’s server without their consent, generally for the purpose of search engine benefit.”
How do they do this? I can’t wrap my head around that
. I’ve traded hosting with lotsa ppl for the same reason in the past. But getting in without their knowledge can’t be real easy.December 19, 2009 at 2:05 pm #806693Anonymous
Inactive@LadyHoldem 213794 wrote:
How do they do this? I can’t wrap my head around that
. I’ve traded hosting with lotsa ppl for the same reason in the past. But getting in without their knowledge can’t be real easy.I don’t think it’s one specific mechanism that allows this to happen, but it is usually systems like WordPress (e.g.) that have specific back-end holes that permit entry into the system, and permit remote download. So, unbenounced to hoster, code is downloaded onto an existing site. Always keep FTP passwords fresh (i.e., change frequently) to minimize the chance of this happening. Hackers will always try to exploit any weaknesses that are out there.
What do you mean by “Traded Hosting” ???
December 19, 2009 at 5:46 pm #806695
triplecrownMember@Dominique 213771 wrote:
What’s parasite hosting?
I have said since it’s inception that rakeback is a bad system.
Basing your income on theft of players from other affiliates is not something I can condone.
Rakeback is nice for the player, however, and it should be administered by the poker rooms themselves, not affiliates.
I know Cake doesn’t allow rakeback, do all the others above allow it?
I disagree that legalization of the industry will bring it to its knees, but that’s another discussion and maybe you want to start a thread on that.
I’ll always been right behind you on the rakeback issue. The concept comes up periodically, and my views haven’t changed.
I think regulation will make it better for everyone.
December 20, 2009 at 5:29 pm #806705Anonymous
InactiveTraded hosting.. ie you host a site of mine on your server, and I host a site of yours.
I wouldn’t really recommend waisting to much time on it though, I really think that no matter what we do to optimize our site along the lines of using several hosting accts, swapping hosting, using more than one Google Webmasters account, etc, Googe already knows, so it’s not really helpin’ much.
December 22, 2009 at 8:30 am #806732Anonymous
InactiveTo me, pursuing rakeback players seems more like the dark side of the poker affiliate industry, a place you really shouldn’t go, but of course there is money there, so it’s worth checking out.
Can’t wait for legalization.
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