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October 5, 2011 at 12:39 pm #818844
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InactiveI believe the tax implications were to stop sites such as william hill from operating offshore to avoid being taxed in the UK, not 100% sure on that though.
Good news on the growth, not surprised to see party gaming grow, which I’m sure is partially thanks to the collapse of FTP
October 6, 2011 at 4:06 am #818861
bosshoggsMember@deanimus 232085 wrote:
I believe the tax implications were to stop sites such as william hill from operating offshore to avoid being taxed in the UK, not 100% sure on that though.
Good news on the growth, not surprised to see party gaming grow, which I’m sure is partially thanks to the collapse of FTP
Good insight here deanimus. The concern the with tax implications, again, is the effect it will have for affiliates. If taxes are raised, it ultimately hits the bottom line.
And yes, the growth opportunity is quite promising…. not too sure what it’s all attributed to. But wouldn’t be surprised if the fall of Full Tilt has something to do with it.
October 7, 2011 at 10:55 am #818881
PngigdgaMemberthe UK government has historically been pretty supportive of gambling, and are trying to adjust things to stop companies moving overseas for tax reasons.
However, a bigger problem is the basic fact that at the moment people just dont have as much money as they used to. Player values are on the whole lower. Whilst this doesnt necessarily have a big impact, it does affect affiliate revenues – but not only in the obvious way.
A lot of big affiliates either charge a tenancy or high CPA or both. With the decreasing value of an individual player this means that in a surprisingly high number of cases the deals are actually costing the operators money.
For example if an operator is tied in to a 12 month contract to pay say, £2000 a month and £100 CPA and the players are only now depositing on average £50 before leaving, then the operator is actually LOSING £2000 a month plus £50 CPA £100 CPA paid to the affiliate against the £50 player value) on every single player.
If that affiliate is bringing 100 players a month then the operator is losing £7000 a month just on that one deal. Go back a while ago when we werent in such an economic mess its likely that the same player was depositing and losing £150 on average – then the deal was a win/win for everyone with the affiliate being paid £120 (£100 CPA plus £20 of the £2000 tenancy for the 100 people bought in) for a player who deposited £150.
This has been the reasoning behind reducing and eliminating CPA payments and moving everyone to revshare. However even on a 40% revshare, using the above example, an affiliate would now only be earning £20 per player instead of the £100 they were used to – forcing smaller sites out of the market thus allowing larger affiliates to survive, and at the same time lessen the impact of this cost shift as they gobble up the players that the smaller sites were getting.
Margins are being squeezed everywhere and ironically its some of the large affiliates who are contributing to this, possibly without even realising it.
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