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January 15, 2005 at 7:17 pm #660246
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InactiveI think there ARE ways around pop-up blockers, but I don’t know the coding for it. I’ve only recently started using pop-ups, and I limit them severely, and I’ve seen promising results so far actually. And they’re not special pop-ups either; pop-up blockers work fine on them.
January 15, 2005 at 7:31 pm #660249Anonymous
InactiveI disabled my windows blocker but don’t remember exactly how.
I think when it blocks a pop it notifies you either on the top or bottom edge of the browser, and if you click there then, you can disable or enable it. It also tells you when you did get a pop because you disabled the blocker, and you can change again at that time. It announces pops by displaying a tiny little pop on the task bar.
I am sure there is a more laborious way to go find the appropriate file to change, but this was the easy way. I don’t remember if you need to right or left click.
January 16, 2005 at 3:14 am #660260Anonymous
InactivePopup blockers are everywhere… even the yahoo and google toolbar have them. I think pop up blockers will increase in usagr. Yes there are ways to get around them, but obviously if the visitor to your website has a popup blocker, and you give them a popup, then you are not giving them what they want. They might then get the idea that you are trying to hijack their browser.
January 16, 2005 at 4:00 pm #660269Anonymous
InactiveIf you think popup blockers are bad (for advertisers) check out Norton Internet Security 2004!
The default setting (which I assume most people probably use ) has the “ad blocker” feature turned on, which means that not only does it block your pop-ups, it also blocks EVERY BANNER AD on your site.
I discovered this myself shortly after I installed NIS 2004 last year and started surfing around and noticed that our banner ads were missing on several sites. I finally looked at my Norton Internet Security settings and discovered that the “Ad Blocker” option was checked “on” by default. After I un-checked it to turn the Ad Blocker option “off”, all the banners were back when I visited the sites. However, unfortunately for us, most people won’t go to that trouble because they like not being bothered by banner ads.
Just imagine how many potential players you are missing if you rely solely on banner ads to pull them in. I think the best way to get players these days is text links with PERSONAL recommendations. We spend a lot of time and money to make fancy banner graphics, but a large percentage of Web surfers never see them these days.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying you should NOT use banners or pop-ups on your sites, but just be aware that a significant portion of your site visitors may never see them.
BTW, I have dropped Norton Internet Security in favor of an anti-virus program that is very highly rated and slows my computer down much less than Norton ever did. It’s called “PC-cillin” by Trend Micro. I highly recommend it if any of you are sick of Norton bogging down your PC. It has also caught a few viruses that Norton missed.
January 16, 2005 at 4:39 pm #660270Anonymous
InactiveI know this about Norton. I also switched – to macafee. I am very happy so far. It’s been over a year since I switched and it caught a bunch of stuff in that time. I switched my husband too, and he is also happy.
Banners and popups do work with those who can see, but text is always important.
January 17, 2005 at 12:02 am #660278Anonymous
InactiveMarinersFan wrote:The default setting (which I assume most people probably use ) has the “ad blocker” feature turned on, which means that not only does it block your pop-ups, it also blocks EVERY BANNER AD on your site.Interesting…. I didn’t know this.How does it define a banner ad? Does it look for animated gifs? Or does it look for images with certain dimensions?
January 17, 2005 at 1:44 am #660282Anonymous
InactiveNorton ad blocker is a huge problem for everyone. I personally have stopped using the program and will never purchase a norton product again. Unfortunately my boycotting this program wont do much. I noticed that in the year old version it blocked all linkshare ads. It even blocks the linkshare login button on the linkshare website! I have no idea how much worse the new version of norton is.
January 17, 2005 at 2:13 am #660288Anonymous
InactiveAdblocking software has an impact on us all – as affiliates, merchants & consumers.
Seems that there are multiple factors that contribute to ads being blocked by ad blocking software including using IAB standard ad sizes, using certain combinations of HTML code that triggers the ad stripping and ad blocking isn’t limited to graphical ad formats either –text ads can be blocked as well and it’s been has been known to block text links as well including adsense and adwords ads.
One key thing to do would be to educate your visitors and put a message on your site to let them know about ad blocking and how to turn it off. This way they will know that it not a problem with your site and that is a problem with Norton who made the decision for them to block ads.
By no means am I an expert on this subject although I had been trying to keep up with the workarounds.
If you’re looking for more info check out
http://www.5staraffiliateprograms.com/norton-blocks-revenue.html
She’s done a great job of putting information together on this subject.January 17, 2005 at 2:39 am #660290Anonymous
Guestshoot Norton is everywhere. That is really upsetting to hear, but I guess I may be a bit ahead of the game in respect to the banner thing because according to KLIXXX magazine (a magazine for adult webmasters that is put out by one of the sponsors or something, I’m honestly not sure why I started receiving the publication but I’ve been getting it for like 4 years now, all no charge, I think it is made possible by one of my old sponsors – since I did make money for them. The only reason I got out was my kid was getting old enough where in a couple of years I was going to have to answer some really tough questions
– but anyway I imagine they’d like me to consider getting back in again and thus… I get this magazine.Its really one of the best ways to keep up on what’s coming next because those people are definitely the leaders of the pack in terms of innovative new ways of serving up the same old product.
But anyway according to them, the banner ad has been dead for some time now, and that a text ad is actually the better route nowdays.
And if you think about it- it makes sense. For myself anyway, …. my eyes are always drawn to read what something says, and yet I can whizz past a bunch of pictures without hardly giving them a second thought.
I know I’d do better on a test of what I’d surfed past that had been presented in text; than I would on a test of (specifics) images.
If I was presented a bunch of images along the same theme, sure I’d remember the theme. But I bet you that’s all i’d remember, as opposed to specifics like that a particular casino had just paid out a huge jackpot to charlie b. from LA.
that’s text I’d remember reading.
January 17, 2005 at 2:50 am #660291Anonymous
Guestbtw, excellent point J.
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why is it that these techies types always over-kill everything? Its not just Norton, its everywhere.
Every single day I am paused at least once – to consider the idiocy of being kicked out of my local sponsor’s banner farm because I’d been logged in all of about 10 minutes, and I get booted out so that I have to jump thru the hoops again in order to grab more than one or two banners.
As I have stated many, many times before; THERE IS NOTHING A COMPETITOR CAN DO TO ME USING MY AFF ID, THAT THEY COULDN’T HAVE DONE JUST AS EASY BY GRABBING THE “id=bb1webs” off my sites; so with that in mind; I WANT MY AFF ID TO BE MADE AVAILABLE TO ANYONE STUPID ENOUGH TO POST IT ON THEIR SITE; SO WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD THERE BE REASON FOR SUCH SECURITY MEASURES FOR THE BANNER FARM SECTION OF A SPONSOR’S SITE?
there is no really good logical reason.
its just over kill. and a big pain in the ass btw.
January 17, 2005 at 3:35 am #660293Anonymous
InactiveYou’re definitely on the right track with using text links, most of our top performing creative are text links.
Of course, for optimal results it’s important that text links are used within meaningful content on your site as well as multiple text links as opposed to just one. All too often we come across sites with excellent text content but they have zero or not enough links to guide you the surfer to the next step. For example, there’s a page of text and one link found at the bottom of the page. If you use text with content put more than one link … we’ve found that using 3 or 4 links in a with chunk of quality content works best … I’m not talking about link overkill but enough to make the next step for the surfer natural.
IMO banner ads still do have a merit as well. Banner ads are doing quite well on sites with targeted traffic and interesting information – not talking about banner farms here. As you know we’ll all different … and we all have different styles and preferences … so you’d probably want to appeal to as many styles as possible. As an example, I’m drawn to text – I see text first and the graphics later while someone like my mother sees the graphics first and the text is secondary. So this is one of the reasons why we recommend using text in combination with graphical ads. For short text try something like:
>>>text link with USP<<<
graphic
>>>text link with call to action <<< Getting back to pop-ups…..I’d be interested in hearing if anyone has had any experience using DHTML pop-ups (Hover ads)? These are those animated sort of floating ads that look and act like pop-ups are actually part of the main page. Hover ads have been used as an alternative to pop-ups and apparently get past most pop-up blockers such as the Google and Alexa toolbars.January 17, 2005 at 9:35 pm #660313Anonymous
InactiveQuote:I switched my husband too, and he is also happy.Is husband-switching a new fad or something?
January 17, 2005 at 9:54 pm #660316Anonymous
InactiveSpearmaster wrote:Is husband-switching a new fad or something?
Naw, old thing from the sixties.
January 20, 2005 at 3:55 am #660458Anonymous
Guestwell I agree that banners do have their place.
I like to use them as “proof” of whatever my ad selling angle might be; which I note CR has very good banners for this purpose; for instance, if you’re pushing secure banking; saying it on the page is good, but its gold when you’ve got a banner standing nearby that is flashing the same message.
Same goes with no download casinos. I like to throw in a banner or two that also reflect that these are flash casinos.
That sort of thing.
Also, I think that when you use the two together, that you’re probably more likely to get more clicks on the “convenient” text link at bottom of the reading, but they may have been influenced by that pretty flashing banner which is nearby.
and besides all that; all text and no pictures make jack a dull boy.

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