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[Anonymous]

Yes Dom,
You are right. Why can´t the poker rooms pay for this. And when they offer theese feeds and one want to know more about how to include them on ones site, they can´t answer :lookaroun

It should be in their own interest people can show tournaments as easy as bonus offers.
:capmiami:

Dominique wrote:

While I am always willing to pay a nominal fee for feeds, and I love feeds, this one is priced too steep.

Also, I never, under any circumstances allow other people’s links on my site.

I agree, the poker rooms should be financing this. It is a marketing expense for them, and a nice creative to make available to their affiliates.

[Anonymous]

I understand you guys…. the price is a bit steep, BUT it is less than HALV of what a consultant advised us to charge……
It is passed midnight around here and my partner is asleep so we will address this issue in the morning.
Is the 50/50 split between affiliate codes a preferred option?

I will post again tomorrow.

[Anonymous]

Pokerboy,

I absolutely love the feed. However, it is just way to expensive. I was debating about whether or not I’d spend $50 a month, and came to the conclusion that this would be my limit.

For those of us who are just starting out, and making about $100-300 dollars a month, having $150 taken out each month is way too expensive.

The problem is that, while it’s a great resource for more experienced players, it hasn’t made me any conversions yet. It has increased my number of bookmarks, but the only time I’ve had anybody click on the affiliate links was when they were curious about an unknown poker room (like Victor Chandler Poker, for example). In any event, they didn’t sign up.

So like I said, it’s a great resource (I use it all the time, myself), but I feel that it isn’t worth $150/month. It also appears as though many of the CAP members feel this way, also.

Any way you could come down in price?

-Kevin-

[Anonymous]

I’ve got money to burn and still think this is way to high.

I was hoping I wouldn’t have to setup a dB myself but it’s looking that way. When I have, I guess I might aswell setup a feed too – competition is good

[Anonymous]

This is way too much money, I really would have a hard time paying for 50 dollars a month…

[Anonymous]

Hi,

I have discussed this through with my partner, and we have agreed that payment from affiliate webmasters is not a viable business model if we lower our prices. There is simply too much work involved to cover our expenses. It is quite clear that the extraction of data is far more complex than most of you guys expect…we were also surprised of the amount of work that had to be put into this….

The other option is to get the poker rooms to pay for our maintenance costs. This was our initial idea, but we have been unable to get a hole through to most of the listed poker rooms (many don’t even respond to e-mails)
We would be more than happy to try this option, but we need your help to get started. We have not been in the gambling industry for as long as most of you guys have, and simply don’t have your contacts. We hope you will help us get this thing going so we can offer this feed freely for affiliate webmasters…all it takes is to convince your favorite poker room that our tournament feed is a great place to be listed…

To begin with we have decided to run with two models of subscription.

1. 100% your own affiliate codes – original price.
2. As rooster suggested a 50/50 split of affiliate codes. This is only rooms which have NOT paid to be on the list. As soon as a poker room pay for our maintenance costs it is “set free” and we will no longer redirect 50% of the clicks to our affiliate codes.

The monthly fee for a poker room will be 149.

We hope that you are willing to work with us on this one and try to convince the poker rooms that access to these listings is in both their and our best interest.

Please let me know what you guys think?

I will send out an e-mail to the involved poker rooms later today explaining our business model.

[Anonymous]

Excellent idea ( the second one of course lol)

Come on Poker rooms step forward and be counted, maybe this is a better place to directly contact some of the rooms as emails to customer support reps are usually non responsive re marketing, it would be a pity to let such a good idea lapse, and as you say there is work invovled from your side – so lets try and keep the dream alive

[Anonymous]

PokerBoy wrote:

Hi,

The other option is to get the poker rooms to pay for our maintenance costs. This was our initial idea, but we have been unable to get a hole through to most of the listed poker rooms (many don’t even respond to e-mails)

Try starting a thread called: “Poker rooms needed” and put your small fee to them (149) in there and what you would provide for it.

My guess is they will come flocking, it’s inexpensive advertising and the exposure will grow and grow if the feed is free. It is a very good quality feed and I like having it.

[Anonymous]

If you’re charging $149/month for a poker room then once all 22 have signed up you’ll have maxed out your earnings – the only way to increase that would be to add more poker rooms, and there’s more than enough choice now.

I would have thought $25/site would have been a better buisiness model – or a flat fee for x displays/month + $x/10000 impressions above that, it would seem to offer more potential.

There’s also potential to charge poker rooms this fee ontop of the small fee from webmasters if you offer them something extra.

This buisiness is $10k/month – worth my while to setup some competition if you don’t get this thing working to the webmasters liking

[Anonymous]

Ok…thank you very much for your comments….we are very glad for the input we get and are always open for suggestions. :hattip:

We are fairly new in the gambling industry and hired a consultant to calculate a price on our product. The proposed price was set after a meeting with this guy, even though we had serious doubts…we were quite aware that most affiliates would be cut out of this option…however you have made some good suggestions in the previous posts, and we have decided to change our business model around. We are now going to charge the majority of the feed from the poker rooms and only charge a small monthly fee for affiliates to cover support and setup costs.

We are going to work with two models.

1.
100% free of charge and 50-50 click share – your affiliate ID on half of the clicks and our on the other half…this model is primarily for new webmasters…you can pick any rooms you like on the list.

2.
A fee of $25/month/website gives you full right to display the certified partners with your own affiliate ID. (poker room who has paid a monthly subscription)

In this feed you can still include non-certified programs (poker rooms which have not paid a monthly subscription) but these rooms will be under a 50-50 click share model.
So if you want a non-certified program listed as certified please contact your affiliate manager at the poker room and provide him with my contact information.

To get things going we have started out with 10 partners who will carry your codes only. I will send out an e-mail to these poker rooms tonight and if they do not want to pay a monthly fee they will be removed from the “certified” list and replaced by another room. We hope that most of the rooms will find the fee acceptable.

Royal Card Club
Royal Card Room
Caribbean Sun Poker
Party Poker
Pacific Poker
Paradise Poker
Ultimate Bet
Absolute Poker
Victor Chandler Poker
32 Red Poker

We hope this solution is acceptable to all parties?

[Anonymous]

I think I may need to start a tournament tracker…Seems like a good business

[Anonymous]

Still not liking it, I think it should be $25/mo for all our codes for every poker site, you’d get a lot of business that way.

[Anonymous]

I’d jump on the $25/month if 100% were my code. (I’d pay more than that honestly.)

At $25 a month, all I need is one sign up at a $100 CPA room as a result to pay for 4 months of feed. That’s dirt cheap.

Something else I believe some affiliates aren’t considering in this thread is the value of the stickiness it’ll add to your sites. People who log into your site on a daily basis are more likely to use you for several of their poker room sign ups. That’s common sense. It’s like placing a value on a forum…another stickiness tool. Bookmarker’s are worth their weight in gold, and if this thing generates book marks, it’s quite valuable.

I don’t agree that the poker rooms should take the full brunt of the cost, though in a perfect world they would. Everyone seems to agree that the tourney feed was great content for their site. So why should we expect great content free of charge?? Makes no sense.

Charge the affiliates and the poker rooms in the long run…fair for all parties, profitable for the feed folks.

[Anonymous]

Hi,

Thank you for your comments.

Our decision has been made.
So far we provide 10 poker rooms for $25/month – with 100% of the clicks through your code.
We hope more rooms will apply to be certified when they see how our feed works. All certified programs will carry your codes only!

Actually I think a small monthly fee for webmasters is also in your best interest as a webmaster. It will keep most “banner farms” and not so serious sites from implementing the feed.

Thanks KeithF – I couldn’t have said it better myself :cheers:

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