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Ok, I can’t believe CAP would certify a program that looks like a college kid made the software for the casino I feel exactley as if I am playing blackjack on MSN games. I played at youwager.coms casino and I was instantly dissapointed to see that it runs on this same cheap software that a casino called Dragonpalaceonlinecasino took my deposit and winnings and vanished all together overnight pretty much. I asked youwager if they had any idea who made the software, of course they have no idea, and no links anywhere on the website, yet I have seen a bunch of rogue casinos that are running this software. I also have heard many people complaining that this software cheats. When I played my deposit+bonus I busted out pretty quickly, there was an unusual amount of 21’s for dealer and player, at one point in time the dealer had drawn to a “21” seven times in a row. There is no way I can personally tell if the software is cheating since I have way to small of a sample size to work with and I was playing $25 a hand it could easily be just bad variance. But when CAP certifys programs do you run a test that would honestly tell if the casino software is legit? Or do you just assume they are and when players start complaining do you investigate further at that point?
I played exclusively at youwager 2 years ago. I compained several times about the dealer getting blackjack at like a 5-1 ratio to me. Every single time I played. I even had them review my logs as I thought it might be a bug or something. Of course they said everything was fine. If the dealer doesn’t have blackjack every 3 hands, he has an ace showing the other 2. I know that software better than any other. The only way you win is by hitting your twelves and thirteens. Me and the manager had several words. I had probably 50-75 sessions with them and lost close to $20K that year. Every single session the dealer was getting an inordinant amount of blackjacks. I wish some company would audit them and confirm that the software does not play fair. I am 100% sure it doesn’t. But I would have about $30K coming back to me from all the sportsbooks that use that rogue software.
And youwager plays games with the annual insurance too. It doesn’t matter how many weeks you play, they give you the same bs line every year that you need to make a deposit in order to claim the insurance. Then both years they tried to jip me half of what was due. If I was not on top of my game in knowing exactly how much I lost then I would have never caught it. They are Rogue in my book. And with the kind of money I lost, they never did squat for me other than the standard bonuses. From an affiliates perspective, I never marketed for them. I started in this business after I quit playing with them but I remember quite clearly my dealings with them and how cavalier they were with a player such as myself who was stuck almost $20K. They could care less whether I played or went elsewhere. Complete Rogue operation in my book. But they do pay their players.
Well I am glad I am not the only one that feels this way about there software at least. I am not one to call an unfair game just because I lost but there is something about that software that just gives me the impression it was made in some college kids apartment somewhere. What it looks like to me is just an under-funded operation all together, and CAP should seriously take a look at there certification untill a complete audit is done on there software.
knowwhentohold wrote:What it looks like to me is just an under-funded operation all together, and CAP should seriously take a look at there certification untill a complete audit is done on there software.Using this software has nothing to do with the company being short on cash. As a matter of fact all of the sportsbooks that use it, nine, dsi, betcris all have deep deep pockets. But I have played at all of them which is why I know the software so well, and my play has gone down the same exact way everytime. The software is very predictable and I know its tendencies, unfortunately I could never use that to my advantage because I always lose control, especially when I am pissed. Dave seems like a standup guy and more than willing to help others here. But as most people know, I call em as I see them. Unfortunately I don’t make many friends that way. I suppose it is possible that the dealer randomly gets blackjack at a 5-1 ratio to me every single session over the course of 2 years at every place I played with that software. And I bet if you talked to anyone else who plays this software, they would tell you exactly the same thing. The dealers blackjacks are incredibly abuntant. And contrary to what others might think about me, I usually don’t say a word when I lose. There are several places I am down big money and I never say a word after horrible session, that’s gambling. However, there are certain casinos such as youwager where I see obvious tendencies built into the software, and I know without a shadow of a doubt that I am not getting fair play, and I choose to call it like I see it.
But they do pay their players, even if your check is for $10K, you will have it the next day as promised. That is about the only good thing I can say about them, but it is just my experience. Others may be happy with them.
Well, I think calling us a rogue operation is absolutely ridiculous. First Fidelity is hardly a fly-by-night company, so please refrain from judging us guilty by association. We are not in this business for the quick buck and have been a solid operation for years.
I personally find your stories interesting, these are actually the first complaints I have heard about our casino software. The Casino is something we have constantly been improving over the last year, so your feedback (despite all your accusations) is appreciated.
Anyway, you two slammed us without providing account numbers or any sort of proof so I’m not sure what you are trying to do here…
All I can say at this point is player complaints happen with any company our size, and that we have a huge, well trained customer service department to handle them.
You want to continue this, please feel free to send me an email with the account info and anything else you feel is relevant. Let’s be clear though, this is an AFFILIATE board, I am NOT directly involved with the Casino product but I would like to see what issues you two are talking about.
To sum it up for affiliates, First Fidelity converts, doesn’t cheat and always pays!
Dave
Bonusgeek wrote:Using this software has nothing to do with the company being short on cash. As a matter of fact all of the sportsbooks that use it, nine, dsi, betcris all have deep deep pockets. But I have played at all of them which is why I know the software so well, and my play has gone down the same exact way everytime. The software is very predictable and I know its tendencies, unfortunately I could never use that to my advantage because I always lose control, especially when I am pissed. Dave seems like a standup guy and more than willing to help others here. But as most people know, I call em as I see them. Unfortunately I don’t make many friends that way. I suppose it is possible that the dealer randomly gets blackjack at a 5-1 ratio to me every single session over the course of 2 years at every place I played with that software. And I bet if you talked to anyone else who plays this software, they would tell you exactly the same thing. The dealers blackjacks are incredibly abuntant. And contrary to what others might think about me, I usually don’t say a word when I lose. There are several places I am down big money and I never say a word after horrible session, that’s gambling. However, there are certain casinos such as youwager where I see obvious tendencies built into the software, and I know without a shadow of a doubt that I am not getting fair play, and I choose to call it like I see it.But they do pay their players, even if your check is for $10K, you will have it the next day as promised. That is about the only good thing I can say about them, but it is just my experience. Others may be happy with them.
DAMNIT
! I was busy writing my own post while you were writing yours. Please just email me the details, if there is an issue we will get to the bottom of it.I appreciate the kind words btw. I do try, and I’d much rather work with yours and anyone elses feedback to make the product better then spend my days defending it.
I have sent Dave my account #. I make no bones about the way I feel and I don’t talk out of my ass and make accussations that don’t have any basis. I am not going to say such things and then run and hide with no way to back them up. Dave is certainly entitle to defend his company, and I welcome him to post his findings if anything I said was inaccurate including an audit of my play and the ratio of the dealers blackjacks to mine. However, I am smart enough to know that no company is going to concede that I was infact not getting fair play. As a player, everything I said went down exactly as I stated. From an affiliate standpoint, I am sure they are fair with their affiliates.
First off I would like to say that I did not mean to come off as harsh as I did, I am sorry for some of the slamming. I am not one to whine about losing as it is gambling and you are going to lose over the long haul anyways, so it is somewhat a waste of my time to complain simply because I am sour about losing. BonusGeek, I was not aware Nine and those others used this software I have played at Nine and it did not seem like the same software but I could be wrong maybe a different version?? Anyways it would do you really no good to even review my records as I started with only about a 20 unit bankroll that doesn’t give much room for a big downswing. If we are just seeing things I would like it proved to me since nobody has ever audited that software before it would be a good marketing idea to have a seal of fairness by an independent firm.
I have been an affiliate of GG for almost two months. From an affiliate’s point of view, I like these guys. David always answers my emails in a timely manor, I had several signups my first month including a whale who dropped a nice chunk. That was the test for me. I had a high 3 figure commission in June and I received it in the time frame of the terms.
So, while I can’t comment on the gambling end, I can on the affiliate end. David is ahead of the game as far as I can tell, and best off all, when it was time for my biggest commission check since Nov of 2004, they paid out when they told me they would.
Buddy M
Guys, this is gambling.
If you seriously suspect foul play, as the wizard of odds to audit the games.
When you gamble, anything can happen.
Only a pro doing a controlled test can tell if the software is good or not.
Heya Bonusgeek,
I tried to send you a PM but your box is full. I didn’t really want to post a personal conversation, let me know when I can send you a message
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