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One of the things i used to hate about apple and jobs was his over promising and underdelivering. That has improved over the years, but jobs still wants us to think of his $300/$2000/$4000 machines as common things like a $30 iron that works then breaks and you get a new one. Well an ipod isn’t a 20 or 30 commodity. it’s a 300-500 premium product and you should be able to replace the damn battery. So while, i’ve had no problems with my ipods (a photo, a video, a touch) i certainly agree with Renee. And hell, why should any product need to be disposed of or sent to the factory for dead battery.
That’s a good point on the viruses and security. I’ve never had a problem with my Mac and I don’t even install any extra software to protect it.
I’ve had to install extra tools on my PC, which slows the whole thing down
So the impression that I get is that MAC is for creative purposes and “countercultures” obsession to do the exact opposite of what mainstream society is pushing. While PC is more of an everyday tool that can be upgraded and is easy to get free programs. I still think that PCs are typically ugly and get loaded with so much trail software, anti virus and spy software that it is like buying a diamond and it losing half its value as soon as you leave the store.
Survey Sez:
Mac= personal and fun, but $$ and not many programs.
PC= what everyone else in the world is using..Isn’t it weird how no one really mentions that you can run Windows on a mac and get the best of both worlds?
@cody@toweraffiliates 166744 wrote:
Isn’t it weird how no one really mentions that you can run Windows on a mac and get the best of both worlds?
If you do that then all you’ve done is pay twice as much for the hardware – while getting a PC experience – where is the sense in that?
:tongue:And it’s not “apple cool” – if any of your fellow MAC cultists see you doing that even once they excommunicate you from the club ..
:roflmao:I bought a Mac Book Pro because I saw all the cool things our designers were doing and everyone who has one swears by it. Man do they fly with all the cool shortkeys and the cool features. I was just amazed at how fast they were working.
I tried to use if for business purpose and found it to be a nightmare. I was always running into compatibility issues with software and even some hardware. I bought Entourage (Outlook for Mac) and I literally tore my hair out just trying to figure out how to switch to Entourage from Apple Mail as my default mail. I couldn’t even sync my Calendar to our mail server. Conclusion, don’t by entourage….it’s a waste of money.
I ended up using my Mac as an entertainment system. I hooked it to my plasma tv and it’s so sweet for movies and music that I’ve downloaded from Itunes. I got one of those cool looking slim bluetooth keyboards and bluetooth mouse and browse the internet from time to time on my couch. It’s pretty sweet but I would never take it on a business trip.
Lol….I never understood why they won’t make an actual right click button on their mouse or laptop.
The main reason for running Windows on Mac is so that you can open and send windows friendly files. Of course I just downloaded office4mac and that was good enough. I am considering creating a partition for XP so I can download Adobe Creative because getting a Mac version to download is virtually impossible.
I do agree that most Applekids will shun you for doing that.. But PC people shunned me for switchin to Mac so either way you’re gunna piss someone off.I’m personally a big fan of Mac, but like it’s been said before their computers are much better for creativity and fun and not for work purposes. Hands-down, their design characteristics blow PC out of the water too. Has anyone tried running the parallel’s or bootcamp software on a Mac?
Run Parallels, not BootCamp. I run bootcamp and it doesn’t work seemlessly. For example, I can’t connect my Plasma to my MAC when I run Bootcamp because I need to be on a PC to watch movies on Netflix and the connection doesn’t work. The bluetooth doesn’t work using Bootcamp either.
@cody@toweraffiliates 166790 wrote:
The main reason for running Windows on Mac is so that you can open and send windows friendly files. Of course I just downloaded office4mac and that was good enough. I am considering creating a partition for XP so I can download Adobe Creative because getting a Mac version to download is virtually impossible.
I do agree that most Applekids will shun you for doing that.. But PC people shunned me for switchin to Mac so either way you’re gunna piss someone off.If you install a Windows Virtual Machine on your Mac, you will also need to run a virus protection program for this part. Seems like a waste of space to me for such a high price.
macs are gay! lalalala
http://gizmodo.com/5018985/why-i-still-use-windows-despite-the-peer-pressure
but i do like the way this guy puts it. and no, you will not be able to convince me that macs are not gay.
There are over a dozen people working at our fair Gizmodo, but as a Windows user, I’m in a definite minority. I still rock XP, and I’m pretty happy with that. Why haven’t I switched to Macs? Plenty of reasons, not least of which being that I’m just too smart to switch to a Mac. That’s right, I’m too smart for Macs. As Bill Gates’s retirement rapidly approaches I figured now is a good time to lay out why I’m loyal to his OS.
I grew up with Windows. Although my first computer was a Mac Classic (I was like 3 at the time, and I only used it to play that helicopter game where you have to drop the little man into the horse-drawn hay carriage), I’ve been using Windows PCs for nearly my entire life, learning how to fiddle with the command prompt in DOS and dealing with the rudimentary pile of crap that was Windows 3.1. I survived Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows ME for a short, painful time, Windows 2000 and now, finally, Windows XP. It hasn’t always been pretty (see: Windows ME), but through it all I’ve figured out every little trick there is to know about running Windows. I’m a monster on Windows.
And yeah, while some of those earlier versions were essentially garbage, running Mac as your OS wasn’t all that great a choice either, especially before OS X came out. Yes, fanboys, I know you love your Macs and everything, but come on: The OS never really came into its own as a real competitor to Windows until 2001. By then, it was too late for me.
And while I used to be pretty into PC gaming, the whole no-good-games-on-Macs thing doesn’t bother me so much anymore. It’s just that to me, when it comes down to it, the PC just feels more logical. Windows is an OS that feels structured and it makes sense just because I’m used to them. Macs feel more nebulous and more dumbed down, like the corners have been softened to not intimidate your mom when she uses your computer. Well, I like having the corners exposed. I like tinkering in the registry to improve performance, I like being able to really tweak the system at the base level. Windows has its engine exposed, and while it might not always be pretty, if you know what you’re doing you really have access to the whole thing. And hardware choices are choices I cherish as are access to plenty of apps. Apple takes pride in hiding everything under the rug and keeping it out of your hands to not let you mess it up. I don’t need kid gloves.
Furthermore, beyond the OS itself, I hate the cult of personality that surrounds Steve Jobs. I like the soon-to-be-retired Bill Gates way more than Steve Jobs, because the guy cares about more than just making enough money to build a castle for himself out of stacks of $100 bills (not that Bill can’t do that). Bill Gates is going to be remembered for seriously impacting the global health climate for the better. After all, the Nobel Prize is named after the dude who invented TNT, but his name is invoked a lot more often for encouraging advancements in science, literature and peace. And chances are, if the Gates Foundation keeps chugging along, Gates may even win a Nobel. Steve Jobs, on the other hand, just makes pretty plastic objects, and when it comes down to it, he seems like kind of a greedy dick. I’m more than happy to not give him any more money.
And you know what? Macs are too hip. Oh, look at me! I do graphic design! I wear women’s jeans and hang out in coffee shops! I’m a DJ! Well good for you. My computer is not a fashion statement. It’s a computer.
But really, when it comes down to it, the main reason I still use Windows is this: I’m stubborn and lazy. I don’t want to switch because it will amount to admitting that I’ve been wrong for the last 15 years or so. And it would be just a huge pain to do it even if I swallowed my pride, having to relearn all the shortcuts and commands and little nuances that make an OS tick. I know all those for Windows already. I am just far too lazy to relearn OS X, and I don’t care how easy you claim it is. I’ve made my choice, and I’m sticking by it. At least until I buy my next computer, because I sure as hell don’t want to have to use Vista. I mean, I like Windows, but I’m not crazy.
ArjunCAP;166792 wrote:I’m personally a big fan of Mac, but like it’s been said before their computers are much better for creativity and fun and not for work purposes. Hands-down, their design characteristics blow PC out of the water too. Has anyone tried running the parallel’s or bootcamp software on a Mac?I run paralells, I really only use it to run our poker software, and one music creation application that I couldn’t purchase a Mac version of.
Works fine, it really is nice to be able to have your windows stuff running in a window and keep working on all things Mac.
I always get strange looks from Apple users that see me running Windows XP on my MacBook, using apple boot camp. Apple hardware is great and PC is just more ubiquitous
I have five Macs – love ’em!
Three of them run Windows XP inside OSX, which works great so I can use the few programs I need that aren’t made for Mac. If you use this program called Parallels, XP runs within OSX like any other program, and you can drag and drop between the two operating systems.
, because I sure as hell don’t want to have to use Vista. I mean, I like Windows, but I’m not crazy
Lol. ya me too. I won’t give up front page although it freakin’ sucks, but learning something new ….. no thanks. rather the devil I know.
that said. i will probably pass on vista. I was so sorry to leave …whatever it was to go to me, and so quick to leave me for xp … figured it couldn’t get worse.
AmCan;166666 wrote:One of the things i used to hate about apple and jobs was his over promising and underdelivering. That has improved over the years, but jobs still wants us to think of his $300/$2000/$4000 machines as common things like a $30 iron that works then breaks and you get a new one. Well an ipod isn’t a 20 or 30 commodity. it’s a 300-500 premium product and you should be able to replace the damn battery. So while, i’ve had no problems with my ipods (a photo, a video, a touch) i certainly agree with Renee. And hell, why should any product need to be disposed of or sent to the factory for dead battery.I bought a battery from ebay for one of my iPods, it came with all the tools and instructions needed.
Worked a treat and was a bargain.
