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It’s possible, but they would only claim to be making an effort to be in compliance with a little understood law.
I doubt this would be successful.
I think we will see this behavior a lot at this time and there is little we can do.
Let’s make sure we never forget the programs that do make an effort to fulfill contracts and shift our attention to them.
They can modify the terms at any time. Says so in their terms and conditions…just like any other site.
Also, just because some sites are not taking the same path as PartyGaming and 888 Holdings, it does not mean they are taking the correct and legal path. Play at your own risk.
Didn’t Party Gaming do the same thing to the affiliates of Empire Poker a while back? Sounds like a nice track record.
Dominique wrote:It’s possible, but they would only claim to be making an effort to be in compliance with a little understood law.I doubt this would be successful.
I think we will see this behavior a lot at this time and there is little we can do.
Let’s make sure we never forget the programs that do make an effort to fulfill contracts and shift our attention to them.
I get the feeling some programs are going to being abusing the current state of affairs. But let this not blind you from the many good programs still out there.
Easy to recongnize the good ones they respond to questions.
greek39
I can’t edit my posts but would like to add something. I would stay away from anyhting connected to Empire for more than one reason. They seem to have their own private marketing ideas.
They do not require us honest webmasters to line their pockets. This I can say with 100% certainy. Their is no gray area here if their was I would say so.
greek39
I agree – I will definitely remember which programs stop payments altogether. I will also remember those who don’t re-track the players once this whole sham is over.
They will be a HUGE target when this whole thing blows over.
pearlgaming wrote:Didn’t Party Gaming do the same thing to the affiliates of Empire Poker a while back? Sounds like a nice track record.Actually, empire refused to share it’s affiliate base and hence Party could not map over.
However, there was no reason for party not to map over the accounts that it had originally, the casinos.
Good posts kwblue and Dominique, both of you have a good understanding what is going on or will be.
greek39
I agree – I will definitely remember which programs stop payments altogether. I will also remember those who don’t re-track the players once this whole sham is over.
They will be a HUGE target when this whole thing blows over.
Without a doubt and they better take in account we are a tight group here and we will be around to remind everyone when they come back to the US market of the scams they pulled on us affiliates!!!
They are a disgrace and their are many trustworthy programs out there that realize that we are a team and without affiliates you would be hurting real bad!
Lets hope that after this thing settles down, and things get back to ‘normal’ that affiliates do not forget who choose to take advantage of things to hurt affilates.
I will not….
I have always had a problem with Party Gaming. I always was on CPA with them, and they would post CPA earnings, just to take them away at the end of the month. Apparently, I brought them one or 2 less-than-credible players, and they wound up putting my affiliate account “on hold”. I argued vehemently, and then when the new back-end payors took over, the ban was “lifted”. They have always been a sleazy outfit, IMO.
I am fortunate in that I was on CPA for most of the main players that have been shutting us down. Got lucky here, and don’t have the recurring revenue stream issues that some of you have. However, I suppose that I will be breaking the law receiving future Rev Share payments from vendors, that I am on Rev share for, once the bill is signed. I’ll have to decide what to do here.
Thanks to all who answered. But as affiliates who contribute in a major way to these huge businesses, there should be some remedy or protection so that businesses who set up and run affiliate programs can’t just dump all those who participate in their programs and come to depend on the income based on the real money players they bring in. Because basically, all the “good” programs today could do the same as PartyGaming and 888 tomorrow.
Whenever a PAC is established, this should be a priority item of interest in order to protect affiliates
thowze wrote:I am wondering if it is possible to file a class action suit on behalf of affiliates world-wide against PartyGaming to recoup damages sustained by their actions. Am I right, am I wrong? I would like to hear opinions on this.
Those affiliate on rev-share will definately see a hit in earnings its true, but as long as PartyGaming continue to pay the correct percentage I don’t see any breach of the terms and conditions of the contract.I don’t think that affiliate partners have any implied control over PartyGaming and how the company chooses to do business – to suggest that is the case seems a non-sensical interpretation of the contract to me.
And of course there is the legal jurisdiction issue. What jurisdiction do you think you could file this in to have a chance of collecting?
I’m assuming the US (because this is usually where high priced class actions are filed) but I don’t think that it has ANY chance of enforcing a payout – even if it did decide you way.
In summary …
I DON’T THINK AFFILIATES HAVE ANY CHANCE OF SUCCESS IN A CLASS ACTION SUIT
