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It was indeed out of line 100%. It was just so frustrating, all the emails I’ve written to Stephen were all professional. I even thanked him for taking care of me and if everything goes well I would change my main recommendation to paradise poker. A couple of days passed and no reply. Don’t you get it poker star? I don’t care about not getting paid because I’m on so called “CPA” program and maybe my clients didn’t clear the 250 raked hands. All I want from paradise poker is an acknowledgement for signing new players. My website is sandboxed and I had to do hard work offline promotion for my place. Finally I signed up some players……but now they are gone. Poker star, you will never understand my situation. Don’t you ever criticize me about being unprofessional because being unprofessional is the last act in my book.
Ok, now we can talk about Paradise here again, and not about other posters, or I’ll have to move the thread to free for all and that would be a shame.
Hehe, I wonder if this Paradise thread will also run up to about 85 posts.
It certainly appears to be an inflammatory topic.
But really, the problem doesn’t seem to be about CPA versus Revenue Sharing with Paradise.
It’s about players being tracked, plain and simple. And I wasn’t the only one who suspected the Paradise stats of being faulty, and had a friend sign up under my affiliate code, deposit and play a few raked hands for verification… and then not have this player tracked to me.
I really agree with Dominique’s post – the affiliate manager is great but the company he works for is shady, and the stat tracking problem just validates this.
I, for one, felt a certain satisfaction when I axed Paradise Poker and replaced it with another program.
Well, I wish I knew if the stats tracking really worked…. Anyone have a good way to test?
Get friends to sign up through your links…
Yeah, just have a friend who has never downloaded Paradise click on your affiliate link, download the software, make a deposit and play a few raked hands.
And a lot of us did this and found that Paradise wasn’t tracking them correctly.
I dropped Paradise Poker months ago. The stats are not accurate and the affiliate dept. is always placing the blame on the IT dept. “I will have the IT guys look into it, etc.” bla bla bla.
SportingBets latest earning release said that ParadisePoker’s cost of attracting each new player remained flat. Now I know why, they dont pay their affiliates.
Sorry but that logic is flawed. If you are promoting a free roll what do you expect. You are telling ppl here is a cool free roll. Theu go there for what you promote. I promote Paradise in both ways – free roll and regular bonuses and tournaments. On free rolls my dowload to deposits are low, on other banners and review info its 10 times better.
Promote freerolls, get freeroll players (mostly). Oh, and Stephen was away for a few days. Read your newsletters, he did let everyone know.
PS. If it takes all affiliate mgrs two days to respond it would be a miracle. That’s below the average.
Everyone take a deep breath.
arnoldpalmer wrote:I’m fairly new to the poker side of things and have been promoting paradise fairly heavily with their $million freeroll. The last couple of months i’ve had one sign up on rev share from about 50-80 downloads a month. They deposited $1000 and appear to have played only once, to me someone who deposits that much isn’t just a casual player and would have thought they would play a bit more!Having read this thread and the long one i’ll be dropping Paradise first thing on monday morning.
Arn
I agree about the quality of players freerolls attract – but this one apparently deposited $1000. You would expect him to play more than a few hands…
I’ve had both good and bad experiences with Paradise. On their CPA plan I have had people deposit thousand of dollars and only play a couple raked hands… but I have also had people deposit $50 and play over a thousand raked hands, including at least 250 @ .25 so I get my commission. Whether Paradise’s stats are truely tracked properly or not, I can’t comment one way or the other because I simply do not know. Obviously some people here feel strongly that there is a problem with their stats, but I honestly haven’t had a problem. I send a little traffic there, I get a few sign-ups. I send alot of traffic there, I get alot of sign-ups! I reguarily have friends and family sign up under my trackers at all poker rooms to make sure everything is working ok, and so far Paradise has a 100% track record of tracking my players with their correct deposit amount and hands played. Take into account that these “test subjects” are seemingly random… they all have different last names, different deposit methods, and many live in different countries in different continents. If they are all tracked properly, I figure the site is overall tracking properly. Based on the experiences others here have had with Paradise, I’m going to knock them down several positions on my sites so if I ever do have a problem it will have less of an effect on me, but I’m still going to promote them until they stop performing for me personally.
If someone deposits $1000 at any poker room and plays 4 or 5 buy in tournamants for around $200 + 20 all you earn is a percentage of the tournament fees. So about $25 in this case.
In poker, deposit amounts are irrelevant. Cash players is what its all about.
Sheesh, I have my ParadisePoker stats open at this moment wondering why they seem so screwed up, and this is the first post I read. Clearly a sign to take them down. Its a great pity because PartyPoker just dont seem to do it for me. Will look at some other programs now.
