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November 15, 2006 at 5:15 pm #715831
Anonymous
InactiveProf,
I think it was one of those agent operations. Apperently, some agents were forwarding some bets to a casino in Vagas. Those have always been illegal.
November 15, 2006 at 5:25 pm #715833
vladcizsolMemberhmmm
That may be true but what about these statments in the news report?:
Quote:connection with a billion-dollar-a-year gambling Web siteQuote:Ryan said the case is “one of the first times that a Web designer corporation and the companies that maintain the Web sites have been charged.”Quote:Ryan said arrests had been made in four states, and “we have initiated a $500million asset forfeiture case,” one of the largest in state history.The charges come after a two-year international investigation that focused on Internet gambling.
Seems like a little more then a couple of guys forwarding bets to Vegas. Vegas isnt even mentioned it does say:
Quote:Criminal charges have been brought against more than two dozen individuals and corporations in four states. One of the corporations is an offshore Internet company with an American counterpartI already see whats coming “Ah yeah, but thats sportsbetting, not casinos” and I agree. But I still dont think this type of news is good or makes our players who read it confident in playing online. :crazy:
November 15, 2006 at 5:31 pm #715837Anonymous
InactiveI think I read this article on Yahoo or Gambling 911 this morn. But apperently, the website where one would go to bet was hosted on servers in Florida. Which would explain why they busted the Webdevelopers and Hosting Company. My opinion if you are actualy taking bets on the internet and are being hosted in the US, you should be arrested for stupidity alone. Come on, if your going to run an Agent business, at least have the brains to locate it outside the US.
November 15, 2006 at 5:33 pm #715839Anonymous
InactiveMy opinion if you are actualy taking bets on the internet and are being hosted in the US, you should be arrested for stupidity alone
Especially sportsbetting.
It’s been illegal forever to take sportsbets.
November 15, 2006 at 5:44 pm #715841
vladcizsolMemberYep, sportsbetting again gets lumped in with “Internet Gambling” by MSNBC. :nono:
These type of news “events” have a chilling effect across the board when the main stream media makes the main focus of their reports “Internet Gambling Websites” rather then bookies taking wagers illegally.
If you were a casual reader (or player) and read the MSNBC report you would assume that these arrests were a result of Internet Gambling.
November 15, 2006 at 5:46 pm #715842Anonymous
InactiveWell, the bit about webmasters could be pointing in the direction of affiliates.
November 15, 2006 at 6:31 pm #715856Anonymous
InactiveNovember 15, 2006 at 6:42 pm #715857Anonymous
InactiveNovember 15, 2006 at 7:07 pm #715864Anonymous
InactiveThey were agents from what I heard, runners(mules)
November 15, 2006 at 7:11 pm #715866
vladcizsolMemberWhat’s the difference between an agent and an affiliate?
November 15, 2006 at 7:20 pm #715868Anonymous
InactiveAgent’s actually take bets and payoff the bets. Affiliates don’t; allthough the current law tries to make them one in the same. I would be willing to argue the difference in court any day.
The owners of the site in question were real mensa types:
http://whois.domaintools.com/playwithal.com
Let alone are their IP located in Texas under CandidHosting inc (Apperently, not too candid for the FBI) but they actually have their Whois info hanging out there for any and all to view. I know using domainbyproxy they can still get at the info with a warrent. But hell at least dont make a neon sign for the authorities to follow. Again, these guys deserve to get busted just on stupidity alone.
November 15, 2006 at 8:10 pm #715871Anonymous
InactiveThese again are bookmakers ,
it works that instead of calling your local bookie you make your bets online , but you dont fund your account , you make or collect your weekly payments from your local bookmaker ,
This has nothing to do with poker , and half the statements in the article are because the reporters do not know what they are talking about .
And for the billion dollar a year website , it was probably just the bookies hedging there bets
November 15, 2006 at 8:14 pm #715874Anonymous
InactiveThis is the worrysome part:
The charges include enterprise corruption, money laundering and promoting gambling.
Now, they are going after sportsbetting, big money and money laundering primarily, and there is little indication they would go through all this expenditure and manpower to nail some affiliate.
But they are throwing promoting gambling in there as a possible precedent.
We will have to watch what happens with that.
Just my opinion, definitely not a legal opinion and only provided for your entertainment.
November 15, 2006 at 8:21 pm #715877Anonymous
InactiveDominique wrote:This is the worrysome part:Now, they are going after sportsbetting, big money and money laundering primarily, and there is little indication they would go through all this expenditure and manpower to nail some affiliate.
But they are throwing promoting gambling in there as a possible precedent.
We will have to watch what happens with that.
Just my opinion, definitely not a legal opinion and only provided for your entertainment.

They have to call it promoting gambling , thats what it is , bookmakers promote gambling on sports ,
As for going after sports betting they have been doing it forever , thats the underworlds #1 revenue source ,
November 15, 2006 at 8:25 pm #715878Anonymous
InactiveThis was the site in question:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060427174152/http://playwithal.com/
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