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I think a lot of us and the casinos are missing the point and jumping the gun. The law doesn’t make online gambling illegal. What it does make illegal is the transfer of money using the US banking system. It doesn’t make systems like 900pay, money gram, western union and any other system that doesn’t use the US banking system. The jury is still out on Neteller. I can use Western Union from my desktop, using a credit card to transfer money to a casino. I don’t understand why these casinos are excluding US players when they can still get funds from the US. The reason Spin Palace has excluded those states is because the state law makes online gambling illegal. Think about it a while, it’s a great opportunity for us. Us your head and think beyond the closing of a few casinos and make your pockets buldge.
Why remove links? Because if you dont you might be rounded up for aiding and abetting.
Axl
But online gambling is not illegal, except for a few states.
titus wrote:AxlBut online gambling is not illegal, except for a few states.
Maybe I am wrong but I thought they had included language in the bill about providing hypertext links to online gambling sites.
That’s ecxactly right. Online gambling is illegal in 9 states only, it’s the financial processing from online gambling activity that has been legislated on allowing the states where it is illegal to prosecute it at federal level. So they are trying to make the banks make things difficult for the online casinos etc. All they have to do is ensure they have systems in place to not take bets from players in those 9 states over the next 9 months. Doesn’t mean gambling elsewhere in the US is illegal.
I think everyone is panicking right now. It is especially important to see the woods from the trees right now.
Hey Erik, I will get up with you in a day or two. I, like the rest of you have absorbed an awful lot of information in the past few days. I don’t know the ramifications yet of promoting gambling sites, even if only marketing outside the usa. One thing I do know is that there is a whole world out there, and if there is a way to stay in this business which I hope there will be, then there will be plenty of money to be made from other countries. I still think everyone should hold their horses. I can guarantee everyones take on this right now will change in one way or another. And don’t be that guy, or girl kicking themselves in the ass because they were too hasty. Wait and see what the experts say, then you can act accordingly. Much of this panic is speculation right now.
hyperlink to a db call is not a hyperlink to a casino, depends how technical you can get
promote all the free play you want, just can’t take any comissions.
Even still SE’s cache pages so someone could seach google/yahoo find your site and display the cached version and click on a casino link, until the next crawl anyway.
axl wrote:Maybe I am wrong but I thought they had included language in the bill about providing hypertext links to online gambling sites.Your right, I forgot about that. Any poker players on the Supreme Court?
allfreechips wrote:hyperlink to a db call is not a hyperlink to a casino, depends how technical you can getI guess if you want to play footsie with the US government you can.
Does anyone have the actual part where it talks about the hypertext? What if someone creates something else and not hypertext for example?
What does it say exactly..However my first point still has not been talked about and that is… WHO IS RESPONSABLE? I just cant see where having info on my (international) site regardless of links can make me responsible for someone else actions.
Diceman wrote:However my first point still has not been talked about and that is… WHO IS RESPONSABLE? I just cant see where having info on my (international) site regardless of links can make me responsible for someone else actions.You put up the site, you own it, you operate it, YOU are responsible for it.
Its call aiding and abetting, and thats what the DOJ would like you to fear.
A criminal charge of aiding and abetting or accessory can usually be brought against anyone who helps in the commission of a crime. A person charged with aiding and abetting or accessory is usually not present when the crime itself is committed, but he or she has knowledge of the crime before or after the fact, and may assist in its commission through advice, actions, or financial support. Depending on the degree of involvement, the offender’s participation in the crime may rise to the level of conspiracy.
Seriously – host your site elsewhere and change your aff details to mine and I’ll send you a check every month, minus 10%. Lose 100% of your sites income or 10%.
owldeath2 wrote:Seriously – host your site elsewhere and change your aff details to mine and I’ll send you a check every month, minus 10%. Lose 100% of your sites income or 10%.Sounds like the exact kind of laundering scheme they are looking for.
Yeh its my site but I am not responsible for what someone does with the info I am sorry.. I can and will defend that in court.
So for example if I have a tshirt that says “Golden Palace.com” and someone sees that and goes to the site… am I going to goto jail because I was advertising them on a t-shirt?
Did you ever hear someone say this “Just because billy wants to jump off the bridge dont mean you have to to”.Bottom line its IMO the person that clicks, makes a deposit and plays thats responsible. If it were the other way around then we are all looking at a law suit IMO. because we have made people gamble, lose money and I am sure in allot of cases those people were under age according to the gov… Is that what your saying? Some kids mom can come at you because he used your site to find a site to open an account to gamble with her card? hmmm and Actually I think the CC company makes it her responsibility am I wrong?
SO again… why am I responsible?? I dont see anything where having a online gambling information website is against the law.
