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  • #697637
    Anonymous
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    good idea!!!

    i dont know much about cookies neither

    all info would be welcome

    #707279
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    i’m still very curious about this.
    -wich programs use them?
    -can cookies been overwritten?
    -what when u use them in an iframe?
    -when do they expire?
    -what if a player changes computers?
    – is the cookie installed when the software is both downloaded and installed, or by merely visiting a page. ?

    all info is much appreciated!



    32Red:
    When a customer lands on the 32Red splash pages through your link, a cookie is placed onto their machine. This customer will credited to the affiliate if they cross into either the Poker Room or the Casino. This cookie is valid for 30 days.

    VegasMagic:
    When do cookies expire?
    Cookies are written to expire after 90 days.
    Do you reward the First Affiliate or Last Affiliate for referring a Customer?
    When a customer is referred, the cookies are overwritten to benefit the Last Affiliate.

    IncomeAccess:
    CWC sets 30 day expiring cookies whereby a cookie expires if a visitor has not registered a player account within this time frame. If a person does not register a player account within 30 days of coming to CWC then the cookie will expire For example, a visitor clicks through from affiliate “A” but does not register a player account. Four days later the same visitor clicks through from affiliate “B’s” link and registers a “player account” at Casino Webcam.com. In this case affiliate “A” will get the credit for the registration and will earn commission on all subsequent revenue generated by that player.

    PartyPoker:
    This type of cookie will remain on your computer for a period of time set for each cookie.

    Vegas Parners:
    Vegas Partner does assign a cookie to all referrals to the Vegas Partner website, but these cookies are only assigned once the visitor joins the program. The tracking of a referral is effected by the Affiliate ID that is present in your link and the visitor ID that is attached to the visitor when accessing the website.

    Coral/Eurobet:
    In the event that there are multiple cookies on a customers computer, then the latest version of the cookie will take precedence, i.e. the player will be allocated to the last affiliate that referred them to the Coral/Eurobet website.

    Brightshare:
    We keep ten-year cookies

    from a website:
    ” Ever wondered why some portals have a pop up that shows the whole casino site rather than just a banner? It is their way of getting the cookie on to the visitor’s computer. “

    another website:
    “Many affiliate networks use cookies to track conversions. This was a great method to track conversions in the past, but recently it has become an issue for the affiliate marketing world. Many consumers are turning cookies off, which will cause conversions to not track. I have heard estimates as little as 50% and as high as 90% of conversions being tracked through cookies. If your affiliate network is using cookies you can assume some conversions are lost. Many networks attempt to make this up by increasing the payout. Some networks don’t bother and keep the additional conversions.”

    a prevoius thread: http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/about-cookies-serious-thread.12247.html?&highlight=cookies

    and quoting TheGooner:”Basically the whole process is deliberately shrouded in mist, seems purposely designed to fail to record cookies … in order to maximise uncertainty and increase the chance of affiliate free players.” :http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/who-gets-the-commissions.12004.html?&highlight=cookies

    more about cookies here: http://www.cookiecentral.com/faq/

    #707309
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    elgoog wrote:
    and quoting TheGooner:”Basically the whole process is deliberately shrouded in mist, seems purposely designed to fail to record cookies … in order to maximise uncertainty and increase the chance of affiliate free players.” :http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/who-gets-the-commissions.12004.html?&highlight=cookies

    Yep that sounds like one of my rants …
    :roflmao:

    But basically I’d expect every affiliate program to be using cookies – and if they’re not then you as an affiliate are getting a raw deal because it will probably mean that visitors had to convert directly of a lick from your website in order to count.

    But what gripes me is the appratent failure of cookies at some site – when really it is a simple process. Eg if you use the always stay logged in feature here – it’s a cookie.

    In answer to some of your questions :
    – which programs use them?
    All i hope – otherwise I would not use that program.

    – can cookies been overwritten?
    Yes they can – by the company – and it will according to company policy as to when they are. E.g is it the first affiliate or last affiliate that gets credit for the customer?

    Annoyingly though – many anti spyware programs also give options to remove cookies as does IE itself (Tools : InterNet Options : Deletee Cookies) . When a cookie is deleted this way then your future claim to the customer is gone.

    – what when u use them in an iframe?
    Should not matter – the page will write a cookie to the computer.

    – when do they expire?
    That’s up to thr company – I’;ve seen terms from 30 days to a year in their contracts.

    – what if a player changes computers?
    New computer = no cookie = no payment.

    – is the cookie installed when the software is both downloaded and installed, or by merely visiting a page?
    I’d hope it was installed on a visit of a page – and the downloading of software would mean that the customer was now considered yours …

    (well I’d hope).
    :shhh:

    #707315
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    thanks a lot Paul:)

    concerning:
    — what if a player changes computers?
    New computer = no cookie = no payment.—

    if the player already played, he still is sticked tp you?

    #707337
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    yes – once a player has download then they should be assigned to yousigh.gif

    From then on the account and it’s profit/losses are tagged to your affiliate account – and no more cookies are required …
    :la-de-da:

    #707376
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    ty very much:)

    #707380
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    TheGooner wrote:
    yes – once a player has download then they should be assigned to you
    From then on the account and it’s profit/losses are tagged to your affiliate account – and no more cookies are required …
    :la-de-da:

    That’s right, in general you just need the cookie untill the visitor you sent has created an account. From that moment it doesn’t matter if he plays from another computer or removes the cookie, since the username is the same and is attached to your affiliate account.

    (Unless there is a special agreement with the casino that tags the player as yours even before downloading or opening account)

    #707417
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thank you Karen,
    and thanks alot for helping me with my new website!
    :hattip:

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