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January 12, 2005 at 12:18 am #587441bb1websGuest
can anybody explain the thinking behind the choices the “expert” makes?
even if I try and explain-away such moves as keeping the 467 of same suit and not the king (dif suit) by saying it makes that choice because when calculated there is a bigger win in the long run by playing to hit the straight flush than there is of what the other possibilities may result
but that loses all credibility when I see the game choose to keep a KQ9 (same suit) as opposed to tossing the 9 and playing for the royal flush which I remind everyone has a 4x the next nearest payout on jacks or better.
Annnnnnnd …
although I haven’t done extensive research, what little I have done has shown me that the “expert” choices don’t seem to be logical given the payout tables of some of the other games.
…. is there some new strategy that I am unaware?
sidenote – I would NEVER use the auto play in the video poker games because of the strategy that the expert mode comes with; and although there may be a way to change it; its obviously not something I found readily able to discover, let alone understand.
I think MGs is losing considerable amount of money due to the fact that for instance; myself; would never play on auto pilot because of the silly strategy.
For me; auto pilot is strictly for the slots.
… which btw I’ve been killing the last 3 days. I’ve hit two jackpots over $5k and several over $1k.
Now how much of that I have been able to keep I’ll keep to myself.
January 12, 2005 at 12:27 am #660011AnonymousInactiveI am no expert in this, but I have played it and thought about it when running into the same or similair situations.
I think they always pick the choice with the least risk of loss, not the gratest chance of winning.
January 12, 2005 at 3:41 am #660023AnonymousInactiveAlthough I haven’t used it much at all, I do believe that the MicroGaming expert mode is holding the cards for the highest return. Steve’s examples are correct plays in regular Jacks or Better games.
January 12, 2005 at 2:17 pm #660031AnonymousInactiveMicrogaming claimed to have retained experts to do their probabilities and plan the autoplay strategy – they of course did not release the names of these experts and some of us gave them a huge shellacking because of the obvious errors in strategy.
I will drive that point home again later this month.
January 12, 2005 at 4:14 pm #660041AnonymousInactiveSpear, do you have specific examples where the strategy is inaccurate? I don’t remember the auto-hold ever disagreeing with me on Jacks or Better, which is a game that I play perfectly. Note that I’ve never played any of the other Microgaming varieties so I have no experience with them.
January 12, 2005 at 9:42 pm #660064AnonymousInactiveI don’t have any specifics – and I don’t play Jacks or Better, but I swear some of the decisions it makes in Aces and Faces and Deuces Wild confound me – maybe it’s me that’s wrong, but it just doesn’t seem right.
We gave them a little hell specifically over blackjack, can’t remember any specific reference to video poker.
January 13, 2005 at 2:46 pm #660090AnonymousInactiveI’ve seen what i thought were odd holds in the past but if you check the “Analyse” button in Expert mode, i always found the percentages matched the choice of hold, so i’ve come to believe its ok in the games i play – DW and Joker Poker mainly.
Simmo!
January 13, 2005 at 7:14 pm #660105AnonymousGuestman this has been enlightening. lol. I never realized how badly I must play. No wonder the only way I can seem to come out ahead at VP is by using the double or nothing option.
January 13, 2005 at 7:20 pm #660106AnonymousGuestcan somebody explain to me how it is a better play to keep an ace of diamonds and a king of clubs instead of tossing one of them in hopes of getting the royal flush?
this is in jacks or better.
ps.
the above may not be an exact example of what I have seen but I do know that it has told me to keep two cards that are not suited which I found extremely curious since the big payout is the royal flush.
January 13, 2005 at 7:42 pm #660109AnonymousInactiveHolding unsuited A-K is better than holding just one of the two because you’ll get your money back by pairing the King or the Ace more often. Yes, you can’t hit the royal, but drawing 4 cards to the royal is a huge long shot anyway.
If you’d like to see the exact numbers, assuming a $1 game where you’ve bet $5:
AK unsuited is worth about $2.39.
An Ace alone is worth $2.32.
A King alone is worth $2.30.January 13, 2005 at 8:52 pm #660113AnonymousInactiveWhat program is generating those numbers? Looks really interesting, I didn’t even think of it that way.
January 13, 2005 at 11:11 pm #660124AnonymousInactiveBy far the best way to learn accurate VP strategy is to use software to practice. Those particular numbers came from Bob Dancer WinPoker, but that’s just because I didn’t have my preferred software at the office.
The best-of-breed these days is Frugal Video Poker which will let you practice, analyze hands, and also generate strategy charts, all in one program.
If that sounds like a sales plug, it might be! :woo-hoo:
I sell it on my site, here:
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