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Envy,
Welcome to CAP. If you can continue to recruit 200-300 players per month to an online poker room, you can expect a monthly return (assuming you’re interested in % of rake) of at least $30,000 USD within 3-6 months. Skies the limit from there.
Or you can go on CPA and get as much as $60000 every month
The $30,000 a month figure is based on only 3 months of profit from the rake, which takes time to build up. I would much rather take $30,000 a month on a residual with growth potential rather than a flat, up-front CPA of $60K.
If you can refer 200 – 300 poker players a month you are already earning enough money to choke a horse. Envy I think you are pulling our leg.
Welcome to CAP anyway :wavey:
Hey if you are not exagerating, can you buy me one of the new C6 Corvette convertibles for Professor’s Day in April? Please…. :1circling :1circling :1circling
Just to clarify, when you say 200-300 a month, do you mean new real depositing players, or 200-300 visitors to your site every month.
EyesCoffee wrote:Just to clarify, when you say 200-300 a month, do you mean new real depositing players, or 200-300 visitors to your site every month
Yes .. I had a similar question.Envy, Is this the number of player signups .. real money player signups .. ?
I am guessing this is not the number of actual depositing players, since you say you are looking to make $5000 a month or more.
If these 200-300 people a month were all depositing players, and you say you have been doing this for a while, you should have already surpassed the $5000 a month income level.
Anyway .. Good Luck to you! Sounds like you are on the right track. Keep doing whatever you’re doing. Your goal should definitely be attainable.
War, it would have been true a couple of years ago, but I have no trust in any casino affiliate program, since Referback did that number with the commission percentages, so CPA is a very good way to get paid for your players.
Aff programs right now come and go every day, so to speak, and there is no guarantee that they will be there next month, or if they wouldnt decide to change commission % tomorrow, or introduce some other kind of requrement.
Party poker is valued in the 4 billion dollar range, they are not going anywhere. Why not choose to get paid $200 cpa from pacific and earn a percentage of the rake on party poker and other top poker rooms.
Thanks for the respons
I’m sorry for being unclear, it was 200-300 play money accounts I meant. Probably I am around 200 players and far from 300. If I go by what War said then maybe I can expect to earn $3000 (Or $4500 since I already make $1500 or so) within 3-6 months if roughly 1 in 10 of the play money accounts converts to real money players. And I am almost only using percentage plans now, even though I recruited quite a few with only $65 CPA in the beginning. So I probably can’t buy you a corvette Professor, but I am sure you can afford one yourself 
Okay, this might be slightly offtopic but here goes
Is it not better to market a new casino rather than one that has been around for ages? their are + an – to both but one would be more likely to catch a real new player to a new casino then it would for one that has been around. Chances are that the player you refer might have already played at that casino…
Hope it makes sense.
With a casino, this might be true because the players play against the house!
I think though that with a poker room, in order to make a good amount of money from a player, you need to have action going on there. And, the fact of the matter is, that there are only a few poker rooms that always have action going on. So, therefore, eventough you might not get as many people refered, you will make more of the people you did refer when sending them to a big poker room, where there are always games going on!
But, correct me, if I’m wrong!I’m beginning to think that this business is similar to having any other financial portfolio–diversification is a good idea. I’ve generally gone exclusively rev share now for over a year in the biz, but I’m beginning to think that it wouldn’t be a bad idea to have a few CPA deals as well as a few rev share deals–to sort of smooth out some of the volatility, as it were.
It’s also been mentioned many times before that putting all of your eggs in one basket is a bad idea, because if the program goes south, or your earnings one month go south, it’s like starting all over again. I work very closely with maybe 3 or 4 sponsors, but that’s not nearly enough to achieve the kind of diversification I need in order to have a smooth income level each month.
Envy–I’d also be interested in knowing what kind of ratio of RMP’s (real money players) you’re seeing each month in comparison to the 200 players you’re signing up. (More from curiosity than anything else.) The number of RMP’s you’re seeing is going to have a big effect on your earnings. I’m seeing a ratio of 1 RMP for every 7-8 TP’s (total players). And my average player value over the time period I’ve promoted them has been close to $200 over time.
As far as Party Poker goes, I definitely recommend rev share. Same with Absolute and Ultimate Bet. Their retention is just awesome, and as War pointed out, long term revenue streams are great to have.
My signups to RMP ratio varies depending on poker site:
Empire 100:45 (for every 100 players who sign up, 45 makes a deposit)
Party 100:35
Ultimate Bet 100:30
PokerRoom 100:25
Absolute 100:20
Poker Stars 100:10I’m on revenue share plan with all but Poker Stars.
Empire 100:45 (for every 100 players who sign up, 45 makes a deposit)
Party 100:35
Ultimate Bet 100:30
PokerRoom 100:25
Absolute 100:20
Poker Stars 100:10You mean to tell me if you get 100 signups (including play money accts.) that 45 of those 100 will deposit? I find that very hard to believe. That means every other one that signs up is depositing…………..
I would love to know what you’re doing to get 45 of 100 to deposit…..share your secrets and make me rich too! :la-de-da:Ellen,
I’m not sure why the ratio varies like it does. But, yes, 45% of the players I sign up under Empire makes a deposit. But, you’ve been promoting poker much longer than I have though. Maybe the % gets smaller as your total signups increase. Your sample is probably much bigger than mine. I’ve only been promoting poker for about 4-5 months.
