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Hi,
I was reading these posts about how not to exchange links. As a general newbie this this area, what the best link stragety??
So far I take it:
Linking with low PR sites are bad
Must first put their link on your site before asking
Sound genuine, visit the site first etc.
If your PR is low, it will be difficult to get links
It is difficult to get your KW’s in the title (isnt this the whole point?)How are you supposted to compete with sites that have thousands and thousands of links, when getting them by hand?
Thanks
I don’t discriminate about PR when people request links with me. I do actively seek out higher PR links when I go link swapping, tho.
If it weren’t for high PR pages that linked with me when I started out, where would I be now?
I figure that the guy who has a low PR this month may zip up next month, and the guy with a 6PR this month may zip down next month. It’s always a moving target.
It’s harder to get linked with busy web sites with high PR, simply because the webmasters are besieged with link requests.
It’s easy to get your KW in the title. You tell people what your ‘title’ is – and it doesn’t have to be your url.
Visit all sites you link with and make sure they are quality sites. Look at their code to check for cloaking. (I learned this the hard way)
P.S. this is a personal peeve with me – make sure people can find their links on your site . Alphabetize them or something! When I have to go through page after page of links thrown in with no order – well, I don’t! I just remove their link from my side. Who has the time for that B.S.?
What do I look for in regards to cloaking?
you can not realy know it, wait a while and see if it in yor backlink, if not ,ask for explanations
/J
P.S. this is a personal peeve with me – make sure people can find their links on your site . Alphabetize them or something! When I have to go through page after page of links thrown in with no order – well, I don’t! I just remove their link from my side. Who has the time for that B.S.?
After spending all of Easter looking at link exchanges I have to disagree with you on this one. Most of the time “no particular order” is really a first come first served order. If you list in alpha order and limit the amount of links per page to a reasonable amount (which you shoud be doing) then the page my link appears on can change over time. Do you want me to spider your whole site, or just the page I know the link should be on?
And why should some-one get the benefit of being on the first links page (usually the oldest link page and the highest PR) just because their title begins with the letter A?
Fergie, I understand your frustration because I have spent too long searching through sites manually as well, but once I find the page I would like to think my link will stay on that page. Unless of course you are just saying to put the links on each page in alpha order, and not all the links over all the links pages. Hope this last sentence makes sense.
any link acount, I just place one of the FREE link exchange managment tools on the site (like link swapper http://www.link-swapper.com ) and let it sit there , people request link at it and it checks the recipocal links automaticly, I do nothing and get links (and give libnks back) it is a great tool if you have one site but it is a must if you have multiple both in term of time involved in managing links and also money (since it is free)
/JanetOriginally posted by Jarvi
And why should some-one get the benefit of being on the first links page (usually the oldest link page and the highest PR) just because their title begins with the letter A?
Fergie, I understand your frustration because I have spent too long searching through sites manually as well, but once I find the page I would like to think my link will stay on that page. Unless of course you are just saying to put the links on each page in alpha order, and not all the links over all the links pages. Hope this last sentence makes sense.
Yeah, those are good points. I changed my mind: It’s better to put links up in on a first-come first serve basis for the reasons you mentioned.
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I would like to think my link will stay on that page
Ya it might be nice to think that but with LinkManager ect. it’s not realalistic.
I have made up my mind if I can’t find a well marked link on a sites homepage to the link page and there is no search tool or some kind of rhyme or reason to were links are placed I will pull that site link and send them a link deleted message. When it takes 10 to 15 minutes to find your link on a site it’s no worth it. Once or twice a month I check my link exchanges and with the help of link manager it go’s somewhat quickly but I still have 30 to 130 new sites that link manager can’t find a reciprocal link on so I have to check.. When I encounter theses type of site it adds about an hr. to my work and that’s if I am lucky. The bottom line is I don’t have time to wonder about 50 link pages just to find my link.
emg35
Some good points being made here. I guess it would be a lot simpler if everyone dealt with each other honestly and “a link is a link” so to speak.
When checking new sites I make sure there are no undehanded tricks being done. With the increase in link management tools around, some people still don’t understand that some of them don’t give credit for the link, if say, it is database driven and the links involve variables. ie not straight html.
Janet, does link swapper run completely off your site or is it off theres? Are you confident the PR is being passed to the linked sites? Guess I should just have a look myself but I’m pretty much sick of the site of reciprocal links at the moment…
EMG, you raise a good point that it is important to also look at how the links pages are linked to as well.
My links are hosted on site.
If requested, I have a links page done by hand, also. It’s a PR4 page ( http://www.casinogeek.net/gamblinglinks.html )
All are straight html.
The linksmanager driven links pages are only a 3 now IF they are on the first page of a category – I would be very interested in finding a way to have all the links pages uniformly ranked without having a link to every link page from every site page!
On my new site, pokerbaron.com, I’m doing all the links by hand. First come, first serve. I don’t intend to put hundreds of links up, just some good quality linking – not necessarily good PR, but good content sites for visitors to use.
I agree with you, EMG35, if I have to search for 15 minutes for my link on a page, I’ll just forgo that and take out their link. It isn’t worth the time.
“I would be very interested in finding a way to have all the links pages uniformly ranked without having a link to every link page from every site page!”
Have one link page that gets links from other pages on your site. Link to every one of your link pages from that one parent-link page. Dump as much or as little PR into that parent-link page as you want. If you have a few really important links, add them to the parent link page if you want.
Thanks, Classics. That’s what I’ve done with the hand made link page.
Is there any limit to the number of links that can go on such a page, or does the benefit to the link partner get diluted with each added link?
Fergie, sorry, I was addressing my question to Janet (username) so hopefully you didn’t wonder why I was asking. But thanks for the answer anyway. I was asking about the link-swapper service that she uses.
Didn’t realise there were two Janets in this thread until I saw your sig.
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Janet, does link swapper run completely off your site or is it off theres? Are you confident the PR is being passed to the linked sites? Guess I should just have a look myself but I’m pretty much sick of the site of reciprocal links at the moment…
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it runs from your site, it does transfer PR to the link partners
hope this helkps.
/Janet“Is there any limit to the number of links that can go on such a page, or does the benefit to the link partner get diluted with each added link?”
Keep it under 100. Not a rule but a Google “suggestion”.
And yes links get diluted. Very important consideration in constrcuting your pages. If you have three links coming off a page those links deliver much more power than if you have 90.
