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I can’t give you advice on your numbers as I don’t have very many casino players, mostly poker, but yes, casino affiliating is profitable. I have a couple casino players that play every month. Some months they win and I get nothing but some months they lose and I do OK. With casinos, the goal is to build enough base that the short-term fluctuation of a few players will not be as noticable. Also, with poker players, with the exception of bonuses, they generate profit for you by playing and preferably winning. The casino players must lose for you to get paid.
I have just had about 20 sign-ups for poker in the last week. I would have made $2000 if I had done CPA and right now I have only made $173 from rake…. I have a feeling that most players once they lose their money they won’t be depositing again. (Most players deposited $50 and have brought me a net of $2-3, with about 2 players are giving me the majority of the rake) So I am having a hard time rationilizing going with the rev share model. Even if my main 2 players keep playing I highly doubt they are going to gross me a $1000 each… Is my sample size to small, how do you guys do with revenue share…
Poker is still young. There are many things that are still working themeselves out in the entire affiliate model. In response to your concern, a medium to high limit full time player will easily pay over $8,000 a month in rake, so yes you can make a great deal. Most of these players are well aware of the rake and look for a way to get a portion of that back, so it is sometimes hard to keep these players on your tracker. I’m not trying to turn this into a rakeback vs nonrakeback thread. This is just one of the reasons I am of the opinion that poker is still finding its footing within the affiliate market.
pokermonger wrote:a medium to high limit full time player will easily pay over $8,000 a month in rake,are you talking about poker rakes? because the max. rake is 3 dollars? how can it go that high up?
to answer your question ClarkePromotion, if you want to go for the long term, revenue sharing program. I would recommend you to go with party poker. But any other sites, go for the CPA.
Average rake per player per hand at $3 rake tables = .30
.30 times 40 hands per hour times 4 tables times 40 hours per week times 4.3 weeks per month = $8256pokermonger wrote:Average rake per player per hand at $3 rake tables = .30
.30 times 40 hands per hour times 4 tables times 40 hours per week times 4.3 weeks per month = $8256ok 60-70 hours an hour. if someone is seeing 40 hands out of 70 ish that’s pretty bad. Also not that many players 4 table. 40 hours a week? holy smokes. well im still not too familiar with this rake structure
At one point, I played a lot: 4 tabled, about 6 to 8 hours per day, and not even professional. So, the $8000 in rake is totally achievable, and done by many professionals.
worldpeace, re-read my statement above. At the middle to high limit tables there are roughly 40 raked hands per hour. There may be more, but this is a safe estimate. Each raked hand is raked $3. There are ten players at a full table. $3 divided by ten players = .30 rake paid per player per hand on average, just like I said. A large number of pros play more than 4 tables at a time and more than 40 hours a week.
pokermonger wrote:A large number of prosLet’s not exagerate, either.
Retention of pros is tough as they are wary and know their worth. Plus, the conditions you mentionned are optimal. I doubt you have “a large number” of players 4-tabling high stakes and playing 40 hours+ per week.If I’m wrong, that’s great.
JackTen, you are correct. I addressed that above by stating that most of these players know their value and are hard to keep.
pokermonger wrote:worldpeace, re-read my statement above. At the middle to high limit tables there are roughly 40 raked hands per hour. There may be more, but this is a safe estimate. Each raked hand is raked $3. There are ten players at a full table. $3 divided by ten players = .30 rake paid per player per hand on average, just like I said. A large number of pros play more than 4 tables at a time and more than 40 hours a week.ohhhh so, as long as they get dealt a hand u get the rakes? i always thought the player would HAVE to play the hand to count as a raked hand. I get it now. If that is the truly case, I played 4 tables, 5 hours a day, for a month straight. Thats like 300 bucks a day…x30.. $9000?!?!? damn i coulda signed up under my friend or something
worldpeace, my apologies, I’m not doing a very good job of explaining. The .30 is an average. Some hands you will pay 0 and some you will pay 1.50, but it will average out close to what the table average is. And yes, you paid a bunch of rake.
worldpeace wrote:ohhhh so, as long as they get dealt a hand u get the rakes? i always thought the player would HAVE to play the hand to count as a raked hand. I get it now. If that is the truly case, I played 4 tables, 5 hours a day, for a month straight. Thats like 300 bucks a day…x30.. $9000?!?!? damn i coulda signed up under my friend or something
It actually depends on the site. If you are playing on Party Poker, then all you have to do is get dealt a hand and your rake counts.
Paradise Poker and some other sites are different. You actually have to play in the hand to get the rake. Furthermore, it is a ratio of your players contribution to that particular pot that determines how much you get from the rake. From their website….
A New Member’s contribution to a “rake” shall be determined by multiplying the quotient obtained when dividing the actual amount to a hand contributed by the New Member by the total bet of each hand, by the total “rake” of the hand in question. For example, if the Real New Member’s contribution to the hand is five Dollars ($5.00) and the total bet in the hand is twenty Dollars ($20.00) and the “rake” of the hand in question is one Dollar ($1.00), the Real New Member’s contribution to the rake will be twenty five cents ($0.25).
This thread further outlines why reading the Terms and Conditions is so important. Numbers are misleading as 25% on one site can be worth a lot more than 30% on another.
Some methods to calculate the rake are clearly not in the affiliate’s favor. :nono:
