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I’m kind of getting a giggle out of this entire thread to be honest.
The entire casino affiliate busines is pretty much illegal if you live in the US. To say “not giving cash” makes it “more legal” is funny to me.
Basically what you’re doing is getting a “cut” of a bookie’s winnings based on players you sent to him/her. Would you want to explain that in court?
There was a guy arrested in New Jersey several months ago.
I say just realized you’d probably lose this argument in 99% of the courts in the US. Just accept that and work around it.
Actually…. My comission is a “cost” for being advertised on my site/sites. I have no controll over that player or even if they signup. I dont even know that person at all… Thats handled BY the “advertisers” side and my fee is still in place for my efforts. I would not say that I am getting a portion of a bookies action or even part of thier business besides another site to advertise on. See I am in advertising and marketing, my site attracts gambling visitors and I am filling the need for my clients.
and in most cases, you get paid only if the person loses. So basically, you a partner in a money making plan with a casino.
I’m in the business too, so I’m not trying to rain on anyones parade. But, if you live in the US and someone really wanted to come after you, you’d have a tough time explaining what you just said to me to the Judge.
You just don’t want to go there, I promise. Save all the “I’m just an advertiser” bull.
Cash for play?
That’s is lowballing.
You’re reducing your profits to attract players, and then another lowballer will do the same giving more cash, and then another etc .Good programs should avoid these practices.
villa10 wrote:Cash for play?That’s is lowballing.
You’re reducing your profits to attract players, and then another lowballer will do the same giving more cash, and then another etc .Good programs should avoid these practices.
Exactly.
And if we look at rakeback in poker, now a taboo topic among rooms, we see where it leads. To where no one makes any profit.
I don’t disagree with this at all. I promote poker and want have any part of rakeback programs.
Here is something you can do.
Some programs will offer an extra bonus to your players but they take that money off your commission.
But I think you will find that this will not bring you the customers you want.
Donkeystyle wrote:and in most cases, you get paid only if the person loses. So basically, you a partner in a money making plan with a casino.I’m in the business too, so I’m not trying to rain on anyones parade. But, if you live in the US and someone really wanted to come after you, you’d have a tough time explaining what you just said to me to the Judge.
You just don’t want to go there, I promise. Save all the “I’m just an advertiser” bull.
I hate being off subject with everyone but when someone says Im full of bull…… yes.. I am just an advertiser.. I dont own a casino property or even handle any of the money transactions and so on. Someone that visits my site is not my responsability and I make that clear. Last I cheched businesses that sell lotto tickets get paid sorta the same way we do so I want the judge to explain that part to me if it ever comes up. Oh yeh… I would go there and might lose the case but the government would have to really talk some shit to get outa what they do to make money for schools and so on and how what I do is any different…..
How we are paid commission btw I believe is OUR business.. From what I understand we dont have to explain the arrangement and terms of this. I dunno for sure.. thats just what I was told.
Oh here is a bit of reading for you as well.. (Excuse me judge.. but can you please explain….?)
dude be cool next time and dont say I am full of bull….
What benefits do retailers receive by selling and cashing tickets?
Retailers receive:
5% commission on instant “scratch” and online (lottery terminal generated) ticket sales
4% commission on instant ticket cashes
3% commission on online ticket cashes
1.5% commission for selling the $25,000 Hot Five ticket
1% commission for selling the $100,000 POWERBALL ticket
1% commission for selling the $250,000 Quick Cash ticket
1% commission for selling the $250,000 DC Daily 6 ticket
1% commission for selling the $100,000 Keno ticket
$100,000 commission for selling the winning POWERBALL jackpot ticket
Various incentives are also offered at different timesOh and to add this. The commission changes from state to state.
Diceman wrote:I hate being off subject with everyone but when someone says Im full of bull…… yes.. I am just an advertiser.. I dont own a casino property or even handle any of the money transactions and so on. Someone that visits my site is not my responsability and I make that clear. Last I cheched businesses that sell lotto tickets get paid sorta the same way we do so I want the judge to explain that part to me if it ever comes up. Oh yeh… I would go there and might lose the case but the government would have to really talk some shit to get outa what they do to make money for schools and so on and how what I do is any different…..How we are paid commission btw I believe is OUR business.. From what I understand we dont have to explain the arrangement and terms of this. I dunno for sure.. thats just what I was told.
Oh here is a bit of reading for you as well.. (Excuse me judge.. but can you please explain….?)
dude be cool next time and dont say I am full of bull….
What benefits do retailers receive by selling and cashing tickets?
Retailers receive:
5% commission on instant “scratch” and online (lottery terminal generated) ticket sales
4% commission on instant ticket cashes
3% commission on online ticket cashes
1.5% commission for selling the $25,000 Hot Five ticket
1% commission for selling the $100,000 POWERBALL ticket
1% commission for selling the $250,000 Quick Cash ticket
1% commission for selling the $250,000 DC Daily 6 ticket
1% commission for selling the $100,000 Keno ticket
$100,000 commission for selling the winning POWERBALL jackpot ticket
Various incentives are also offered at different timesOh and to add this. The commission changes from state to state.
Sorry for being offensive. I’m just telling you from a little experience that what you’re saying will not fly, I’m 100% positive.
I mean come on. You’re equating authorized and regulated retailers selling government program lottery tickets to random, unregulated dudes on the internet promoting offshore gambling on which the US makes zero dollars from. You can’t honestly think that comparison makes sense, can you?
I am going to try to use contribution points that you (hopefully) can exchange for Poker Room credits amongst other things. I will not just have the contribution points for this purpose though, I have a rather big system in place with member auctions, website enhancements, advertising and possibly even hosting (imagine getting free hosting for being active on a poker forum, promoting your website!).
I made a little post in my blog about this in case someone want to see my mad plans
http://www.emeraldace.com/forum/index.php?automodule=blog&blogid=1&showentry=15The system will need some testing and I’ll need to get in touch with the afilliated poker rooms first to see what can be arranged….
All I am saying is that their REALLY is no law that says what we are doing is wrong. If so. then I guess we should all leave the country right?
I guess your right but as far as it all goes there is not much of a seporation from what I do than what a lotto agent does.As far as giving money to get players….. Just use the money you would to get that player and use it for something else… I mean if they are even thinking about gambling and visiting YOUR gambling site. You dont need to give them your profit to signup and gamble.
