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August 24, 2005 at 2:28 pm #671567
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InactiveThese programs can analyze your page load time and the assets you use on your page. (It helps to reduce the load time of the page by analyzing your page and offering alternative solutions.)
Graphic rollovers mean for example when you use 2 picture for your menu button, one of them is the onmouseover phase and one for the “off” phase. Generally there is a JavaScript what changes this pictures. In this case the browser has to download the proper states of the button at every page load.
Pictures take more time to load than text menus, that’s why if you want to use graphical menus you could use CSS (Cascading Style Sheet) to make your menu. The browser chaches the CSS (in which you define your buttons like backgrounds) so the browser doesn’t have to download the CSS all the time.
Programming websites with CSS has a learning curve and at this time it could be frustrating because every browser renders the page by their own algorithm and what looks good in Internet Explorer may be crashed in Firefox and vice versa because of the lack of the standards. (Mostly IE implementation of the box model).
Hope this helps.
August 24, 2005 at 6:36 pm #671606Anonymous
Inactivesipka wrote:These programs can analyze your page load time and the assets you use on your page. (It helps to reduce the load time of the page by analyzing your page and offering alternative solutions.)Graphic rollovers mean for example when you use 2 picture for your menu button, one of them is the onmouseover phase and one for the “off” phase. Generally there is a JavaScript what changes this pictures. In this case the browser has to download the proper states of the button at every page load.
Pictures take more time to load than text menus, that’s why if you want to use graphical menus you could use CSS (Cascading Style Sheet) to make your menu. The browser chaches the CSS (in which you define your buttons like backgrounds) so the browser doesn’t have to download the CSS all the time.
Programming websites with CSS has a learning curve and at this time it could be frustrating because every browser renders the page by their own algorithm and what looks good in Internet Explorer may be crashed in Firefox and vice versa because of the lack of the standards. (Mostly IE implementation of the box model).
Hope this helps.

Ok, forget the CSS thing for now, i will figure it out one day.
What i really want is this:
After analizing my page, the html was over 100k, compressing it would make it 7k, and increase my download time by over 100 seconds on a 56k connection.
But i have no idea how to do it, even with these programs, i know some offer a trial, what happens when the trial expires, do my pages stay compressed, do they go back to the way they were, do they dissapear completely.
Is there an easy way to do this
Thanks
August 24, 2005 at 9:28 pm #671627Anonymous
InactiveYou can try “HTML shrinker light” and no the pages will remain shrunk after free trial.
August 25, 2005 at 1:38 am #671654Anonymous
InactiveThanks for that info
Shouldn’t these compression tools be provided through your site builder, or site host.
I’ve never done this before, will i be able to do it, i enjoy watching wrestling and suffer from incurable road rage, should i consider paying someone to do this for me.
August 25, 2005 at 2:36 am #671657Anonymous
Inactivenick777 wrote:After analizing my page, the html was over 100k, compressing it would make it 7k, and increase my download time by over 100 seconds on a 56k connection.Usually, when I think of comrpession, I think of gzip.
August 25, 2005 at 2:51 am #671661Anonymous
InactiveIf you have a lot of pages to be shrunk then yes maybe paid services might be the answer. But if you only have a few pages doing it yourself is VERY easy. All you need to do is copy your original page’s source code, save it to your desktop, open the HTML shrink program, open the website file on your desktop within the shrink program and click ‘shrink.’ After that upload the NEW copy of your page(s) to your website. NOTE: make sure to backup old copies of your code BEFORE attempting this in case of errors.
August 25, 2005 at 3:12 am #671665Anonymous
InactiveI tried the pipeboost and shrinker lite, they did nothing, the programs wouldn’t even run
What is the DL link for GZIP, i’ve heard that one mentioned before
When i search for it, i only find forums related to GZip discussions
Thanks
August 25, 2005 at 3:55 am #671667Anonymous
Inactivenick777 wrote:I tried the pipeboost and shrinker lite, they did nothing, the programs wouldn’t even runWhat is the DL link for GZIP, i’ve heard that one mentioned before
When i search for it, i only find forums related to GZip discussions
Thanks
Didn’t run? hmm…never heard that before. Anyway, gzip for html? LOLAugust 25, 2005 at 4:36 am #671669Anonymous
Inactivewufu110 wrote:Didn’t run? hmm…never heard that before. Anyway, gzip for html? LOLWell let me put it this way, it ran, but the wrong way, it couldn’t do anything i wanted except compress existing programs on my hard drive, i couldn’t even get it to compress my documents, the html stinker. And the pipeboost one just kept saying it couldn’t connect, totally useless, both of them
August 25, 2005 at 3:25 pm #671685Anonymous
Inactivenick777 wrote:I tried the pipeboost and shrinker lite, they did nothing, the programs wouldn’t even runWhat is the DL link for GZIP, i’ve heard that one mentioned before
When i search for it, i only find forums related to GZip discussions
Thanks
Gzip runs server-side. You’ll have to have the technical skill, read those forums you found to acquire it, or have a host who has it installed and is willing to help you.
August 25, 2005 at 10:41 pm #671721Anonymous
InactiveOneguy2nv wrote:Gzip runs server-side. You’ll have to have the technical skill, read those forums you found to acquire it, or have a host who has it installed and is willing to help you.yeah, the 1st thing i had to get was a ftp transfer program, like cute ftp, smart ftp, then i was able to do it
that html shrinker completely ruined my page, it compressed it by eliminating everything that was on my page
i found this program html compact, it did the job but put a stupid link to their site right in the middle of my banner at the top of the page, so i won’t be using them anymore.
I’ll figure it out, thanks
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