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Will have to go out and pick up another couch or two, but I am sure we can come to an arrangement. Will do most anything for a few beers
But note that it will be on a first come first service basis.
:cheers: :cheers:
I will bring a futon and a case of beer:shots:
I will bring a futon and a case of beer:shots:
I’m taking the wait and see approach. If things get hairy, I already
have a plan to move into a country where online casinos are located.If anyone’s selling I hope they auction the sites off here to other affiliates rather than big companies.
Not living in the USA, will continue business as usual
I’m taking the ‘wait and see’ approach, and paying a lot of attention to the legal interpretations of this bill. So far that has been mixed between affiates being in trouble, to nothing has changed……. I’ll seek legal advice when the time comes to really worry….
I really dont see how an affilate can be held accountable, especially if you have a disclaimer on your site advising a potential customer to check to be sure that things are legal where they live! Adult sites have been getting around the ‘age’ thing for years doing something similar……
I cant control people… and dont intend to try!
Peralis
I will bring a case of beer and a couch see you in a bit :cheers:
BradLiving in the USA, with a site that is clearly marked as being operated by a US company, Casino City plans to continue the way we are. There is nothing in the legislation that changes the legality of anything we are doing.
If we were an operator, or a payment processor, it would be a different story.
Doesn’t mean I don’t have worries about the economic impact of what is going on – I do. But I’m not worried about any criminal liability.
Michael Corfman
There should be a choice for taking action to be more in compliance. Like going away from direct benefit from gambling losses as in rev share and trying other choices, including the old banner impressions etc. until things pass.
I’m sorry I didn’t add more options to this poll, I agree there should have been more choices for you all. It was sort of a panic poll, but I appreciate everyone’s opinion on the subject, it has been very useful. Casino City’s post is my favorite, as it makes good sense…..also it favors us. I wonder if the affiliate programs can start implementing a way for US affiliates to switch to clicks and cpa’s as Dom pointed out?
Casino City wrote:Living in the USA, with a site that is clearly marked as being operated by a US company, Casino City plans to continue the way we are. There is nothing in the legislation that changes the legality of anything we are doing.If we were an operator, or a payment processor, it would be a different story.
Doesn’t mean I don’t have worries about the economic impact of what is going on – I do. But I’m not worried about any criminal liability.
Michael Corfman
Michael,
If you can, what is your basis for you skirting the issues ? Clearly, the bill makes references to links (hence, us affiliates) domiciled in the U.S. I realize that you are much larger than most of us, probably have a team of lawyers working on this, have been going toe-to-toe with the DOJ in the past, but what is your basis for getting around this ??
I know from your post on another board, that CPA is part of the equation.
Thanks in advance for any legal input that you can share.
dhayman wrote:Michael,If you can, what is your basis for you skirting the issues ? Clearly, the bill makes references to links (hence, us affiliates) domiciled in the U.S. I realize that you are much larger than most of us, probably have a team of lawyers working on this, have been going toe-to-toe with the DOJ in the past, but what is your basis for getting around this ??
I know from your post on another board, that CPA is part of the equation.
Thanks in advance for any legal input that you can share.
The key, from Casino City’s perspective, is to be legal in everything you do. The law does not actually prohibit either advertising online gaming or linking to online gaming sites.
The law does allow requests to be made by the government to interactive computer services requesting that links to be removed to sites of gaming operators. Since we are not a gaming operator, there is not grounds under the legislation for removal of links to our sites themselves.
We could, however, be subject to injunctive relief under section 5365 of the legislation, whereby we are required to remove our links to online gambling sites since we currently host sites with links to online gambling sites within the US. Such injunctive relief can only be granted after we received notice and an opportunity to appear in court since we happen to be the interactive computer service that hosts our websites (we are an ISP).
Were we to receive such a request, we would probably both contest the request on grounds that such a request violates the first amendment and change the links to go to a site outside the US that provided links to the online gambling sites. In our opinion, moving the links to online gaming sites offshore, after receiving notice, but prior to a ruling being issued, would prevent us from violating the law that will go into effect if the legislation is signed into law by Bush.
I’ve also posted my response on the GPWA website at http://www.gpwa.net/forum/showthread.php?t=168235, where I will answer additional questions as they are posted. I’ve done a number of posts here about the legislation, but quite a few more on the GPWA site. Anyone interested in my other posts on the subject can see them using the following link: http://www.gpwa.net/forum/search.php?do=finduser&u=21723.
I am based in South Africa so are in a much better position than most , but thats not to say that I am not deeply worried about this situation. At least 40% of my income comes from USA players , it is going to hurt but granted – nowhere near as much as my US counterparts.
As I have an office and staff I normally land up with a net profit of about 35%per month , so it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work out that I am going to be in trouble if I can’t make up the additional 5% from the other markets. Who would have thought that me sitting in South Africa would land up hating USA Senators one day – just goes to show !Must agree with Casino City I have no real worries. My sites will move forward regardless. greek39
