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April 20, 2005 at 12:57 am #664411
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InactiveWhat’s a textas tea slot? Does it get any searches?
April 20, 2005 at 1:12 am #664414Anonymous
InactiveComing up 3rd in Google for the term “Texas Tea Slot” doesn’t seem that impressive to me. Overture’s Keyword Selector Tool says that term got 355 searches last month.
April 20, 2005 at 1:41 am #664416Anonymous
InactiveLOL .. are you guys serious.
would you rather have several rankings of # 4 5 6 7 8 for one hundred keywords that get 300 searches per month .. or would you rather rank #30 for ‘slots’ … LOL. simple math for me .. lots of money out there to be had.
April 20, 2005 at 2:39 am #664419Anonymous
InactiveThe Big G has been the targeted search engine by all people on the last years since almost all search engine traffic comes from them. SEO became GO (google optimization) with people always trying new tricks to get good rankings.
With so many people trying hard, it is impossible to have a flawless search engine and a lot of search results are irelevant, just inflated by webmasters. There are a lot more people trying to screw things than people to correct it.
Aware of this, the Big G has inserted more and more variables into the algorythm, trying hard to vanish websites with bad practices. But soon they realise that the algorythm has flaws, and they introduce new variables again. Google is dancing, dancing, and going nowhere.
Webmasters like the ones you refer, have optimized their sites in a way that will not get them top positions for long time. They may now have a gold key to the G doors…but G is always changing the lock.
Search Engines are changing. Google will loose some market share and will do a lot of updates on the algorythm. The best thing to do is to use a few clean and simple CEO practices, that will benefit in the long run and are able to last, instead of optimizing too much with practices that won’t last and are directed to one single search engine. Sometimes the best optimization practice is simply using common sense.
The case of tiyu123.com is simply a bad practice. It is nothing, it is a duplication of Golden Palace website. It does make sense to you the current ranking of this site? Not for me and not for G on the near future.
April 20, 2005 at 1:41 pm #664436Anonymous
InactiveI have to agree with sharpgambler. In the long run, quality content and white hat SEO will always win. These sites climb slower than black hat SEO sites, but when Black hats are long gone and buried, quality sites are still climbing and making more money all the time.
In the long run, black hat is also infinitely more work than white hat SEO, In white hat you create a solid source of information, once. In black hat you need to constantly learn new tricks and make site after site after site to stay in business at all.
You may think black hat is easier and more profitable – but if you want to make real money for a long time without having to reinvent the wheel all the time, white hat is better any day.
April 20, 2005 at 4:55 pm #664461Anonymous
InactiveIt odesnt matter if it’s profitable to them. I just think we should keep an eye on this group, because they are starting to should for “online casinos” and other terms, as well…
April 20, 2005 at 5:06 pm #664462Anonymous
InactiveDominique wrote:I have to agree with sharpgambler. In the long run, quality content and white hat SEO will always win. These sites climb slower than black hat SEO sites, but when Black hats are long gone and buried, quality sites are still climbing and making more money all the time.In the long run, black hat is also infinitely more work than white hat SEO, In white hat you create a solid source of information, once. In black hat you need to constantly learn new tricks and make site after site after site to stay in business at all.
You may think black hat is easier and more profitable – but if you want to make real money for a long time without having to reinvent the wheel all the time, white hat is better any day.
Exactly, well said.
April 20, 2005 at 9:21 pm #664471Anonymous
InactiveSEO is a long game and many sites which have been around for 6 months + and have some links can pick up good rankings on low level search terms “reasonably” easy for a while. Buts its very short term after Google does it dance
I have been very pleased with myself to get a number of top 5 rankings for particular casino names. (and still have)
But in my experience I have found that great as it feels to say I am number 4 for X search term, if its only searched a low number of times a month, the numbers can be non existent or maybe one every 4 weeks for that term make it feel after a while so what!!
But I agree with some of the above comments, 100 easy low terms can start to add up. But personally I would rather be comfortable with 50 mid term performing pages, and one or two good ones than 200 low level.
If you spend time looking at the top the 20 on google for high level casino/sportsbook/poker terms and compare each of there sites on there strenght (links/PR etc..) you will see on the surface lots of things that go against everything you read
Like why do 2 casino aff sites both targeting X casino does the one with less links and PR appear above the one ranking with the same criteria
(and yes I know PR is like christmas, it nice and you like it but now your older it meant more in the old days)
Goog is important but ultimately your site success will depend on a number of things
– Good content/stickyness – give your user a reason to come back and he will try more progs
– Quality links – not just being added to a link manager directory – hook up with a blackjack site and get them to link back to your black game guide “online black jack” href=”yoursite.com”
– Look at your site structure, how much content do you have or is just banners, how fast are your pages, how quickly do your new pages get indexed (if not you need to examine your site in more detail)Content is king, user experience is king and quality links are king. All of these and you will earn regular $$/££ – I would rather have a user come back to my sites again and again as they trust it,than have them hooked on one partner
Google is like working with a friend who is a drunk, you know them but they do unpredictable things so you cant 2nd guess them. Which makes the rules seem crazy to follow.
So after my mini rant
I have one open question
– How many users does MSN have?
Once you have that figure – go work MSN – there new Algo is as robust as Windows 95 – easy to manipulate, it cant last – so make hay while the sun shines
End of Crazy IrishMan rant
April 20, 2005 at 9:43 pm #664472Anonymous
InactiveHow many users does MSN have?
I was ranked in 4th -5th place for casino reviews and did not get any traffic, maybe a few clicks a week.
But people searching for no deposit bonuses go very deeeep to find something on msn. Don’t know why?
April 22, 2005 at 9:42 pm #664583Anonymous
Inactivethe main point is though .. dozens of rankings across numerous “insignificant” (in your eyes) keywords = 50K-150K per month easily (assuming they are pulling in the region of 500 new players per month). whether ur network lasts one month or one year, it works out to be sweet for your pocket whether you go with cpa or %
anyhow, maybe i’m in the wrong place. lots of people here seem to be in it for the love .. i’m in it for the money
April 22, 2005 at 9:57 pm #664585Anonymous
Inactiveantonym wrote:LOL .. are you guys serious.would you rather have several rankings of # 4 5 6 7 8 for one hundred keywords that get 300 searches per month .. or would you rather rank #30 for ‘slots’ … LOL. simple math for me .. lots of money out there to be had.
I’d rather have #30 for slots than a few #7 rankings for bad keywords. That’s just me though. I’m a poker guy anyways, but i’d rather have #50 for “Poker” than #6 for “Texas Hold Em’ Tealeafs” or something lol.
April 22, 2005 at 10:01 pm #664586Anonymous
Inactiveantonym wrote:the main point is though .. dozens of rankings across numerous “insignificant” (in your eyes) keywords = 50K-150K per month easily (assuming they are pulling in the region of 500 new players per month). whether ur network lasts one month or one year, it works out to be sweet for your pocket whether you go with cpa or %anyhow, maybe i’m in the wrong place. lots of people here seem to be in it for the love .. i’m in it for the money

Assuming they pull in 500 players per month… that’s a very big assumption if each one only gets a few hundred hits lol.
April 22, 2005 at 11:12 pm #664590Anonymous
Inactiveyuh know what .. forget it guys .. what you don’t know won’t hurt you :banger:
April 23, 2005 at 10:45 am #664600Anonymous
InactiveMaybe I don’t know shit, but dozens of rankings for “insignificant keywords” will never produce $50k plus per month, that is just fantasy.
Dozens of decent secondary keywords may produce 5 figures per month but in the casino biz, even secondary terms can be tough to rank well for.
If anyone is in fact getting 500 players per month from secondary terms, then they have a hell of a lot of sites and are working hard for every dime they make as the maintenance would be a killer….
April 23, 2005 at 1:54 pm #664602Anonymous
InactiveKevin11 wrote:Maybe I don’t know shit, but dozens of rankings for “insignificant keywords” will never produce $50k plus per month, that is just fantasy.Dozens of decent secondary keywords may produce 5 figures per month but in the casino biz, even secondary terms can be tough to rank well for.
If anyone is in fact getting 500 players per month from secondary terms, then they have a hell of a lot of sites and are working hard for every dime they make as the maintenance would be a killer….
Well said, Kevin!
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