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June 20, 2006 at 7:05 pm #696168
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InactiveThat usually works, but make sure she’s from another IP and has absolutely, definitely never played there before.
Someone new to playing is best. I have had it happen that people did play there before, years ago, and forgot.
June 20, 2006 at 7:14 pm #696174Anonymous
InactiveAlso, tell them to clear their cache and cookies before going through you site.
June 20, 2006 at 10:42 pm #696203Anonymous
Inactiveor let them use a “new” computer
June 21, 2006 at 11:08 pm #696321Anonymous
GuestI always like to use someone from a different region than me.
meaning that if I were a cheating program, … I’d set things so to always show any signups from the affiliates:
home state (or country, basically depending on how the area can be divided by a PC)
zip code
area code
etcbecause I’d be figuring if someone was going to test: it would be likely from within one (or all) of the above regions
however thats if you think they’re cheating. If you think they’re tracking doesn’t work then go ahead and check it yourself or have friend.
on a related side note: I think that cheating has become more sophisticated in many instances … but I also think there are still a ton of programs out there which so little respect affiliates that they don’t go to the added extra trouble to hide their actions. That has been the case in many instances for me.
the more sophisticated cheaters I suspect now simply skim your overall profit margin but allow players (new and old) to show up in your stats. problem with that is you get situations like I have at Brightshare where i am getting conversions but the bottom line always is so far less than other programs with similar or even less exposure that now despite it converting to real players with some success … the money just isn’t there). *note: not implying BS is dirty, but am saying the situation requires same actions. I’m going to have to pull them unless they really turn it around soon.
So I think the most sophisticated cheats are siphoning off the bigger players about 2 or 3 months into their play.
Playtechs: I think must be using the “you had a winner!” … ‘which we’re sad to report has wiped out any substantial earnings you may have had…” approach. I do hear about people claiming they make good money with playtechs but I would be very interested as to what amount they consider to be good. Frankly I find it hard to believe people are making similar amounts with playtech as they are making with MGS,… with the exception of a few
Bottom line: is check your bottom line. You should see steady growth in income and players as time progresses. While its true that people move on; there is an undeniable truth about human beings. We are creatures of habit. I need look no further than myself to find a player who has regularly patronized a select few casinos for the last 5 or 6 years. these players exist: and in more than just small numbers.
So I think it is very unlikely you should be making less money with a program 2 years into it than when you started.
But that is the case in many instances. I don’t think it has to do with any failings on the part of the affiliate. It’s either a cheat; or an establishment which obviously is not worthy of your time since if you’ve dropped income to 50% of when you started 2 years back (for example) then it stands to reason that if the trend is falling off; it will keep falling off so cut your losses while they’re still small …
if it ain’t making you money, then you should definitely drop it because you’re either hooked up with dog; or a program that is cheating you and by allowing this to continue you are funding the future cheating of some future newbie. Kick ’em off your site if they don’t make decent money. after all, what do you really stand to lose?
June 21, 2006 at 11:52 pm #696324Anonymous
Inactivegood post!
thank you very much!June 22, 2006 at 11:56 am #696369Anonymous
InactiveExcellent post BB1 –
I’ve had a problem with one for almost 2 months now.
I was told finally that the new depositing player had gone to this site from a different affiliates site quite awhile ago, did not join and then went to my site and joined. Since this player first went to the casino from another site, the cookies were recorded and the other affiliate got tracked and paid for my visitor…..to me that has always been the easiest explanation.
After contacting them again, it is now under investigation. I’m sure the outcome won’t be in my favor, and if so their sites will stay off my pages. I can’t rogue them because they are decent casinos and pays their winners and I don’t want to rogue them in my webmasters page just in case a playing visitor happens to stumble on the webmaster section and decides not to join because of what he/she has read.
My new depositing player is someone who likes to spend my money. It was on a brand new computer and my site was the first web page this computer saw. The coding at the time was coding this aff program put personally on my site. This new depositing player was my ex wife. I set up the computer for her, turned it on and typed in my web address. If I didn’t get credit for the signup(which I did because I checked the stats and the download did indeed credit to my account) then the coding itself on my page tracks to a different aff. coding that the aff program put on my page. It was their offer to redesign my home page for me, they sent me the coding and I put it in my home page.
June 22, 2006 at 5:17 pm #696402Anonymous
InactiveI had a couple of programs that I thought were cheating me too.
I did ask a friend to deposit and play like $10 on each, which I paid him for.
Well, I now know they are tracking correctly but I’m also out $20. I wunder how much the gambling industry makes a year from affiliates testing the stats this way?
June 23, 2006 at 4:10 am #696490Anonymous
Inactivertb1980 wrote:I had a couple of programs that I thought were cheating me too.I did ask a friend to deposit and play like $10 on each, which I paid him for.
Well, I now know they are tracking correctly but I’m also out $20. I wunder how much the gambling industry makes a year from affiliates testing the stats this way?
I wouldn’t imagine that much, since another affiliate might have made money in this way. Statistics of the game and what not.
June 23, 2006 at 11:55 am #696507Anonymous
InactiveI was told finally that the new depositing player had gone to this site from a different affiliates site quite awhile ago, did not join and then went to my site and joined. Since this player first went to the casino from another site, the cookies were recorded and the other affiliate got tracked and paid for my visitor…..to me that has always been the easiest explanation.
I would drop that program ASAP. Cookies are fine, but they should be overwritten so that whatever affiliate closes the deal gets the player. The player should belong to the last affiliate link they clicked on before joining.
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