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Its a very smart idea. Set up your own server from home is a good thing all around. I have one that is used for other things.
Yia sou Greek,
I’m pretty ignorant about this home server issue. Please explain the advantages to having one in terms we could all understand. I say that because sometimes you get pretty technical and lose me on the 2nd paragraph
Thanks,
ntaus
mcscs wrote:Hi, First time here just starting out. I’ve gained a lot of information from everybody who has posted and answered questions here. So here’s my first one. Does anyone Hosts their web sites from a home server. I was thinking of starting off with a lightweight home server on DSL. Anyone have any negative or positive opinions on thisI think that isn’t such a good idea. There are many reasons not to do that. Considering that if your connection goes offline your business does as well. What about DOS attacks? Load balancing? Firewall? Security? Name servers?
I’d recommend you get yourself some hosting in a datacenter. One of my hosts only charges $ 6 USD a month, it is a Linux host with PHP and MySQL DB.
I beg to differ, what do big companies do? hire a outside server to host their site? most do not for security reasons. A home based server is about as secure you can get it. Dos attacks? not if you do your homework, your home server can run Linux. Linux has been breached once. I run a cold fusion server for years without no problems.
By having your own server the risk of malicious hacks are limited. I personally never had one a attack. Once you do have one there is no problem obtaining PHP, MySQl ect… all you have to do is connect from your server to theirs.
I don’t like to just come out and say it, I don’t want people to get any ideas about operating your own server, but good a idea.
Once you have one you will know why. Read up on it I guarantee you will find some interesting info. greek39
Well, big companies sure. We for example have several cages with multiple racks in several datacenters around the world but would never host out of our office. A company I consulted for had ONE datacenter in-house but several co-locations. So, unless you are willing to spend BIG BUCKS on hardware (firewalls, load balancers, servers, backup systems, constant server updates, hardware replacement) you are best of just getting hosting for a few bucks a month. Kind of like comparing a seed with a tree, but hey!
Actual hosting a web application over a DSL connection for something that you use to make money with… um… I wouldn’t recommend it.
greek39 wrote:A home based server is about as secure you can get it.Yours might be. You already have a developed skillset.
But, someone asking that question should probably not be doing it. Hosting is cheap. Learning system administration is extremely time intensive, not to mention keeping up with patches, exploits, etc.
Sure, the average host out there might not be that secure or reliable, either. If someone were really bent on hosting themselves, they can go with an unmanaged dedicated server at a good datacenter.
Most people who are just running a few websites don’t need or want the headaches associated with server adminstration. If you want to do it for fun or knowledge, go ahead. If you want to do it to save a few dollars in hosting costs, you’ll probably eventually wish that you hadn’t. You’ll find yourself buried in a sea of information that has little to do with operating a website, and everything to do with keeping a server secure. Even then, you won’t beat the people who really want in.
If you are new to this than you would be crazy to go down the road of setting up a home server and be fine. Judging from many of Greeks posts, he is very technically savvy and could be fine doing it, but for most it is a different story.
Even with the technical know-how to setup a server, you have to make sure you don’t bog it down (like if you were using it as your home PC as well), then what happens when you go on vacation and your server hiccups or the power goes out in your home and your site is down for a week. You will get dropped out of the search engines because they can’t find you, you will miss that whale that was looking for your site. There are plenty of really cheap hosting options out there for as little as $5 per month where you have guaranteed up-time, backup systems, and of couse all of the nice features you would want for hosting your site that will cost you time and money to set up on your own to use.
hi, actually a home server uses the same software that the commercial servers are using.. the big difference is the amount of traffic DSL can handle. From what I see here the majority of the people starting off would not come close to overload, you can actually running game server with around 40 players at once with no problem. As soon as traffic got that large I move would move to a commercial site. As far as six dollars a month pretty much I would think you get what you pay . By new to this I meant affiliate programs. I was just wondering if anybody here has their own server set up at home. And if they had any problems. You can run a server on the same computer you using to view this forum at the same time. As far as costs is just like when you buy car. A cavalier or Corvette your choice.
hi, I do not want to be accuse of getting off topic. I realize this site is about affiliates not servers. If you’re interested in how Home server works there are a lot of good info sites. Just do a search home server or dsl server plenty of info. They work just like your server now. You can control them remotely when you’re on vacation. You index into the search engines the same way you do on the commercial site. bot come and go If your commercial site goes down when you’re on vacation ? Same deal same work. Again I don’t want to get off subject. Am here to learn about affiliates
thanks mikeI don’t think you’re off topic. It was your topic.
I do agree with the issues webber brought up as well.I may have suggested that you don’t have the technical experience to do it. I’m sorry if I was wrong about that. I doubt I’d “out-tech” you in that area.
I still say that you’re better off hosting with a hosting company. Part of what you get in that case is many other people complaining when their own sites go down for any reason whatsoever. So… even if you go on vacation, you don’t really need systems in place to monitor your own sites, and don’t need plans to bring them back up like you would if you’re hosting from home. (not to mention the different reasons why they could go down, and whether you would really have remote access to what might amount to an offline machine.) On an unmanaged dedicated, you need those things. However, they usually come loaded with software that you’d have to install yourself if you do it on a machine at home.
Most ISPs don’t like that set up… might let you do it for awhile, then pull the plug at just the wrong time.
HI, it’s not anything that was said, I just feel that it will take too much time away from the subject I came here for. yes it gets involved . . Running a server is a lot less complicated than writing code for your web site. I’m going to sit back and think of some affiliate questions. I have plenty of time So you can get technical I have all day to look the material up. Just getting me pointed in the right direction when I run into a wall. i’ll ask another one.
tanks.
mikeI have posted a topic on dos or Ddos attacks on routers. It is the router that gets attacked first in most instances. This attack I explained did infact happen to Yahoo at one time. The server got pinged at such a rate yahoo it shut down.
I agree its not a simple feet to set up your own server takes a little know how. I do not use a firewall the only firewall I use is a Manipulation of Linux. I fried my mother board a few times and have several spares. It takes two miniutes to change and I am up and running again.
I know instantly if there are problems because my system has set parameters to disengage, basically a intrusion detect system. The benefits are nuts! I am trying desperatley not to give too much away here. But for ISP question you can assign your own, you can change it when you want.
Your own server allows you to install programs for example, apache, php, my sql and many other programs. Allows for applications do be done faster and beleive or not website downtime is almost non existant. What about file transfers? these are done in a blink of a eye. Just image how you could adjust your email. Increasing your page load time no problem. Many other advantages a well which you would have to figure out on your own.
Far as major search engines liking this I would consider contradictory. Is not our websites hosted by some server. Why can’t it be yours SE’s takes it to be the same thing. The only difference is the webhosting company just makes money off you.
For Power outages from where I come from they Guarantee for a price there would not be any. I if there is I am compensated for it.
So whats up with an IP address. The Internet protocol say 151.32.12.14 the periods are called dotted quad. From a simple IP address one can determine many things, one being Country, host and some other stuff I don’t care to mention.
My server currently is used for other projects. I bought it about Five years ago for $5000.00 add ons another $3000.00. But bare in mind an old used P.C could work perfectly fine as an server. Server’s range in price from $500.00 to who knows.
Yes there is a learning curve, I would begin by reading the whole book of the internet. Go back in time and find out what happenned in 1965 and go from there. It won’t take long. But I promise you will be amazed. Please excuse my spelling and often confusing posts I mostly type in a different lanquage.
greek39
I do not type I use NaturallySpeaking voice-recognition the best $200 ever spent.
Just parted out my compaq 1600 waiting for dell to send sc1420
I think it would be wise of me this be my last post on the subject. But I really encourage you to find out what happened in 1965. Most people start in the middle and end up being rather confused. Take the time to learn and answer one simple question, what is wrong with linux?
