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Hi all (E)
I started to make this post about …… oh probably 4 posts back ….. and decided against it.
however now reading further … I offer this thought.
If you can’t say anything nice about someone …. don’t say anything at all.
I think that also applies very well to aff programs in terms of …… if you can’t find one that fits the necessary minimums of requirement for being a decent program…… simply pass on that software.
may sound dumb…. but time will tell. I think in the long run …. better to not partner with any place that doesn’t offer fair treatment ……. even if it means not offering any casino running that software.
food for thought.
With SO MANY choices we dont have to deal with partners who will drag us down.The people behind these casinos are like poison.
If a group like clubworld or many of the top shelf microgaming bought these casinos we all know we would be up all night posting these brands all over the place.
I am just really sorry to see Kiwi Casino go this route.This is an excellent thread.
I didn’t know about gamingpromo’s predatory clause:
“If in a given month, there are no new depositing players, you WILL NOT be eligible for payment for THAT GIVEN MONTH, even if your players continued to play or make further deposits. Only if there is at least 1 (one) new depositing player each month, you shall receive payment for the revenues generated by all your players.”
Thanks for pointing it out BlackjackInfo.
Gosh, I’d hate to send them a whale and then not send them any depositors for a few months.
Oh well, goodbye GamingPromo !
Whats with bet365.com?
mr.noise wrote:Whats with bet365.com?
bet365 and centrebet casinoHave no problems with IOG but wary of Party connection. As of this month payments are processed via Party Cashier.
IOG accept no French players.
Some additional information —
Centrebet and Bet365 — both have predatory T&Cs (minimum referral requirements).
Totesport — 30% commission, no negative carryover, but there is a lot of intimidating legal mumbo jumbo in the T&Cs — never have I seen anything like this before. I worry that they would close my account at some point if they decided I wasn’t following the rules to the letter. After I’ve built up a nice player base, of course. :stirpot:
IOG — I still don’t like the IOG / Party connection, even though people seem to be okay with the arrangement thus far. I don’t trust Party at all (they are thieves, what can I say). So, IOG is out for me.
BetRev and Bet Fred — 25% commission. I don’t know much else about these programs. I used to work with BetRev, but I dropped them a long time ago for reasons that I don’t recall.
What do people think of BetRev, Bet Fred, and Totesport? Do they pay on time? How good is the communication? Do they treat players well? How likely do you think it is that they will be bought out by another group?
Thanks again for the help.
Regarding bb1’s earlier post — good points. I may very well end up dropping all Playtechs, depending on the comments I get about the few casinos that are left on my list.
My publisher, Avery Cardoza, is opening a Playtech casino. It’s supposed to open this week or next week, and I believe he said the name would be something like Cardoza Gaming. He asked us to become affiliates.
I have no idea yet what the terms for affiliates will be, and I don’t know what kinds of incentives they intend to offer players. I only know that Avery is behind the casino, and he is 100% trustworthy. I’ll let you know when I have more info.
Very interesting. Looking forward to learning more.
OG — I still don’t like the IOG / Party connection, even though people seem to be okay with the arrangement thus far. I don’t trust Party at all (they are thieves, what can I say). So, IOG is out for me.
BetRev and Bet Fred — 25% commission. I don’t know much else about these programs. I used to work with BetRev, but I dropped them a long time ago for reasons that I don’t recall.
PM me and I can make you a very good offer.
You have forgot about Maxima Casino & Mega Sport Casino.
Maxima Casino workes good for me, and their managers are very confidential and close to any quires. Well, I do not want to pr them, but when I had problems, they was always online,via ICQ and MSN.
As about payments – they always paid on time to Moneybookers.As about Mega Sport – they are not my favourite. But, an hour ago I did a search for their owners company – Resume Investments ltd, Cyprus.
And fid very interesting things. They has opened 4 new casinos with Playtech software. And this are very new casinos, as I suppose, MegaSport Casino skins. And, as I found, Dafa Poker has the same owner.What do you think about it?
Blasters for sure, also Casino Partners is doing great thing in Europe.
BetFred Casino’s run on the PlayTech software and although I don’t promote Casinos, their affiliate manager Martyn is great. Really helpful and supportive.
I’d recommend the Betfred affiliate program to anyone
Engineer wrote:Bet Fred — 25% commission. I don’t know much else about these programs.What do people think of BetRev, Bet Fred, and Totesport? Do they pay on time? How good is the communication? Do they treat players well? How likely do you think it is that they will be bought out by another group?
Hi Engineer,
Martyn from Betfred here.
I hope to answer a few of your questions here and if you require anything else please let me know.
The 25% commission is our base rate and we are happy to negotiate this for you. All affiliates who are signed up to CAP and GPWA automatically are raised to 30% purely for being here.
We pay on time and have never missed a payment date, we are continuingly improving our offering to affiliates and are in the process of developing a new affiliate system. We will also soon be uploading a new design of the current one which will act as a temporary site (not affecting any of your functionality) until the new program is ready.
Our player retention has improved as we have progressed as a company, admittedly at the start it was not the best, but as we have gone on we have implemented new procedures to retain new and current players with offers, personal service and support.
Regards to your question how likely is it we will get bought out…I would say, not a chance. Fred would not allow it. If you saw the write up on Fred in the GPWA magazine from CAP then you will know that he has built this business from the ground up and has not done that to sell it on.
Please get in touch and we can discuss commercials and lets see what we can do for you and also what you can do for us.
Affiliates are treated well at Betfred in my opinion, obviously we cannot please everyone but I am sure there are some satisfied affiliates here. sigh.gif
I would very much like to work with new affiliates on this forum, if you are looking for a new site to promote, give us a try. I’ll sort you out and make sure you have everything you need.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Martyn :hattip:
Thanks Ballsup! :hattip:
Looks promising… I will review the Terms and Conditions and if all is well will sign up and place them where Kiwi is (don’t like that they are CPays owned).
Thanks Martyn!
PS – I’ll be negotiating at that time also
