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July 13, 2006 at 3:23 pm #698443
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Inactivedhayman wrote:1) It doesn’t make it to vote this year (we delay pain for a year); This is
our best option – it will literally be a race against time. There are only
15 Senate business days left until summer recess, and approximately
30 business days left to election stuff starts taking hold;2) Somehow the bill gets modified to include ban on Horse Racing and
Lotteries (small chance of that, since other laws protect those
interests);Traditionally one of these or both is what happens.
July 13, 2006 at 3:27 pm #698444Anonymous
Inactive1) It doesn’t make it to vote this year (we delay pain for a year); This is
our best option – it will literally be a race against time. There are only
15 Senate business days left until summer recess, and approximately
30 business days left to election stuff starts taking hold;2) Somehow the bill gets modified to include ban on Horse Racing and
Lotteries (small chance of that, since other laws protect those
interests);
=========================================================Dominique,
I fully aware of the History of # 1. In regard to # 2, I have 2 questions for you:
1) Did Senate ever try to Add back Horse Racing & Lotteries to their
version of the bill ?2) If YES on # 1, was the current Horse Racing legislation already enacted ?
Thanks in advance,
Doug
July 13, 2006 at 3:56 pm #698446Anonymous
Inactive1. not sure if it was the house or Senate, I think it was the house.
2. but if it was the senate, no, wasn’t enacted yet.
3. Lobbying issues are unwise to discuss in public in any way, shape or manner.
July 13, 2006 at 4:57 pm #698453Anonymous
GuestHi, I know this is off-topic but I thought somebody might know: what’s that address of the where you can go and contact your senator to fight this bill?
thanks in advance for your reply.
July 13, 2006 at 5:37 pm #698460Anonymous
InactiveOne way is to go here xhttp://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/ and type your zip code in the box.
July 13, 2006 at 5:49 pm #698463Anonymous
GuestThanks Dom.
July 14, 2006 at 12:47 am #698510Anonymous
InactiveThis Bill is being pushed forward by the Banks themselves. They do not care if they lose a few bucks on the gambling money from the small, overseas casinos. The Big corporate casinos will move in for the internet gambling prize. The Banks are pushing this bill along with the Wire Act Bill redo. Cut out the small guy. Business as usual. Mark my words, this will pass in a heartbeat-there is NO lobbying for offshore casinos!
July 14, 2006 at 1:04 am #698511Anonymous
InactiveIt may vary well pass don’t really matter. We have all seen how internet literate these Politicians can be, pretty funny. If they really think they can regulate the www/internet they all in for a big surprise. There are a gizzilion ways of getting aroung this.
Online Gambling will continue to grow no matter what bills they pass. greek39
July 14, 2006 at 1:06 am #698512Anonymous
Inactivecruises101 wrote:The Banks are pushing this bill along with the Wire Act Bill redo. Cut out the small guy. Business as usual. Mark my words, this will pass in a heartbeat-there is NO lobbying for offshore casinos!Can you give me a link to where you got this information from?
July 14, 2006 at 2:51 am #698531Anonymous
GuestThere are a gizzilion ways of getting aroung this.
I imagine that is correct but I also think it would be very wise to get the information out to players while we still have the chance.
If all gambling related sites are blocked by isps then as I understand it a proxy site would suffice to gain access but where are these proxy sites and how exactly is this done?
or if there are better ways please explain
July 14, 2006 at 2:51 am #698532Anonymous
InactiveThe Senate doesn’t have alot of time to get this bill through the
Committee and then onto the floor. Also, it is an election year,
and I’m not sure that any of those senators up for re-election,
really want to vote on record for or against this right now.The Senate plans on tackling the “rights of detainees” in Guantanamo
Bay once they return from the Summer break. So.. hopefully, this issue
will take up all or most of the remaining 30 days or so of their session.July 14, 2006 at 12:27 pm #698562Anonymous
Inactive>>The Big corporate casinos will move in for the internet gambling prize.>>
How exactly would they do this if the bill passes?
July 14, 2006 at 12:40 pm #698566Anonymous
Inactivecruises101 wrote:This Bill is being pushed forward by the Banks themselves. They do not care if they lose a few bucks on the gambling money from the small, overseas casinos. The Big corporate casinos will move in for the internet gambling prize. The Banks are pushing this bill along with the Wire Act Bill redo. Cut out the small guy. Business as usual. Mark my words, this will pass in a heartbeat-there is NO lobbying for offshore casinos!The Big Casinos want legalization and regulation, so they can get a piece of this huge (and growing) Internet pie. Passing this bill, in its current form, hurts more than helps this cause. No politicians currently have the guts to ask for a study on how to achieve this, since it is an election year.
Additionally, this bill hurts banks, in that it will require new policies to be implemented to enforce the law (which will cost a lot of money), AND implementation of these policies will reduce credit card activity, which will also cost them money. Further, there are lots of investment banks (Morgan Stanley, Merryl, etc.) that are invested in legal overseas gaming companies, so one would think, in principal, that this would make them be against this legislation.
Nonetheless, this administration and Congress ceases to amaze me with their decisions, so that’s why I’m pessimistic at this point. Our big savings grace at this time, is lack of time in the Senate. That is the card that I’m hoping for.
July 15, 2006 at 11:56 am #698737Anonymous
InactiveOK, did some diggin’. This bill is now on the Senate calendar:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HR04411:@@@X
With some further digging:
The presumably good news, is that it’s on page 58, at the very bottom of the current calendar (next to last item). Either July 17th is going to be one very busy day, or this is an exhaustive list of things on the books.
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