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Thanks Classics
Also if you care to comment, WebProNews has predicted a major Google shift again next week… The article reads:
Search Analysts Predict Google Shift Next Week
Jim Hedger and Ross Dunn of Stepforth released their predictions today that Google rankings will undergo another major change next week.Have you noticed any changes in your link count?
“We are predicting another massive change to listings over the next week, based on our analysis of how Google is looking at incoming links and its recent behaviour patterns.”
As proof they offered that, “Google has, in the past 24-hours, radically upped the link-count on most of our clients’ sites.”
Yesterday Google only recognized 105 of the more than 1000 actual links to Stepforth’s site. Today Google shows 220.
This enormous change in the number of Google-recognized links to theStepforth site indicates a change in what the Google algorithm perceives as a valid link.
The rise in links also indicates that Stepforth’s site, along with all the other sites in Google’s index, may soon rank differently.
Have you noticed a change in the number of links to your site? What do you think this indicates?
Thanks to Stepforth for breaking this news.
I was actually noticing the rise in backlinks…. wondering what this will bring.
What happened LAST night?
They must have put into effect some filter that is search domain ownership on this go-around on the terms: casino, casinos, gambling
One of my related sites shows up, the others are ALL gone.
Except on phrases with “gaming” in which all my sites still show up.
Anyone else?
http://www.coloradogamblingforum.com according to google is not a relevant site to be listed under the term
“Colorado Gambling Forum”
The site is 8 months old is getting 3-5 new memebers a day and is the ONLY Colorado Gambling Forum. It held #1 since it was born till this day.
HOW IS THAT BETTER RESULTS?
Almost all of last week, my backlinks have been fluctuating – along with my PR.
The downward fluctuation gives me NO gambling backlinks.
The upward fluctuation still gives me fewer backlinks than before, even though I actually have MORE high PR backlinks.
I’ll just be happy when it stops, so I can brush the dust off and take it from there.
‘www.coloradogamblingforum.com according to google is not a relevant site to be listed under the term
“Colorado Gambling Forum”
The site is 8 months old is getting 3-5 new memebers a day and is the ONLY Colorado Gambling Forum. It held #1 since it was born till this day.
‘
HOW IS THAT BETTER RESULTS?’It’s unfortunate but google doesn’t quite care about quality results anymore. I wish they did. One thing that I learned a long time ago is that building a quality website with quality targetted content is not the way to get listed high. It seems that the best method is building new websites and spamming google.
I have personally given up on quality over the past 3 months. Google like 3 page websites that are obvious spam. If that’s what we like we webmasters dont have much choice but to reward them.
Antoine
blackhawk, I assume you’ve noticed you are back to #1.
Was it more than just one day that you dropped?
I’m curious because as they’ve been moving a lot of data around many sites have inexplicably dropped, and then returned as soon as they got fresh crawled. I see a fresh date on your site of the 22nd. So I’m curious if you came right back, within hours, or if you came back only after the next time you were crawled.
Hey Classics;
The results stayed for quite some time, but I wasn’t checking logs… my experience has been.. when google starts fu@#$king with you, just start building for content and forget all SEO talk until things settle down.
What is the latest on this nightmare anyway? I have to keep my focus and build websites, sometime…
You’re always up on the current info classics, how about a current run-down of what Google is up, too. I have been apprecitating your information.
Bernard
Apparently both Google and Yahoo and others have suddenly granted me my wish and put my site on the first results page of several of my sought-after key phrases…………….:dontget:
…………………..YEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWW!!!!
:cheers: :letsparty :letsparty :clapper: :clapper: :roflmao: :rasta:
Google$#!T still. More lackluster sites have risen above me for a key term.
Not only that, but I discovered Adwords allowing other sites to bid on my site name – which really PISSES me off since I can’t even use Adwords myself for unknown reasons.
:baaa:
Was that bad timing, or did you intend to rain on my parade?
That sounded pissy, eh?
I didn’t mean to come off sounding like a whiner.Sorry about that.
LOL – don’t worry about it.
I just got pissed off at Google because to me it continues to show some pretty bad results.
My minor keyword phrases have apparently all climbed higher – and that is because of “unintended” optimization of those pages. In other words, it appears to be a fluke.
It does show me that Google is unable to determine relevance properly. I guess I can’t expect it to do everything…
… so the only logical thing to do is to create more sites which give Google what it wants.
Nice site, by the way…
Thanks!.What google seems to want more than anything is spam. Spam and links. Content takes a second seat to that, which is why so many trash sites do well in a search.
So, feeling like a spam whore, I made use of every place I could spam in an alt. tags, title tags, etc. I made a couple spam folders to store images in – one per keyword per page (for example if the key phrase is “internet gambling” the folder would be “internet-gambling”) AND the next step is to rename stored images to include the key phrase. So, the phrase pops up like crazy:
I did that to 3 pages or so, and it really seems to work.
God, I feel so cheap.
LoL
blackhawk, I think we are in an interesting lull so far as both Google and yahoo are concerned. Yahoo has sent out notice that it is suspending its Inktomi, FAST and Alta Vista paid inclusion programs as of the first, but the email didn’t say what was replacing them. I suppose they will announce that in the next 24 hours or so.
Google’s database, at least in the gambling areas, is dramatically less filled with spam than pre- November 15. They seemed to have a very nice bunch of data on one of their 64.* datacenters shown in the first post in this thread, but then the quality seemed to degrade some when they moved it all over, and also some super-wild fluctuations were noticed when this occured, similar to the colorado gambling forum thing. Those seem to have not stuck though. After a couple months of much better results we seem to be getting a lot more lightweight results, like a lot of be-the-dealer garbage “sites” appearing for most terms. Bottom line, my guess is that what was on the 64 datacenters will probably appear again, but I’m guessing that Google has recognized a problem: when they basically set up a datacenter with data, it was applauded on all the webmaster boards as having great results… but then it got worse once they added “fresh” data. And Google is still of the opinion that “fresh” = good, when it is not. Just because something is new doesn’t mean it is good, and in gambling at least new very likely does NOT mean good. I would guess that this is what Spearmaster is not liking, a sort of revolving door of new sites ranking high then dropping, only to be replaced by another new bit of lint. At least Google doesn’t have the problem with redirect sites that Yahoo does now.
Anyway, I think in both cases, today doesn’t matter. We are going to see significant changes in both soon. Google’s pagerank will probably update in the next day or so, then a few days after that I’d expect to see a significant change.
Originally posted by Classics
Google’s database, at least in the gambling areas, is dramatically less filled with spam than pre- November 15.[/quote]
Agreed – but it is still a step backwards from pre-Brandy.Quote:After a couple months of much better results we seem to be getting a lot more lightweight results, like a lot of be-the-dealer garbage “sites” appearing for most terms.Exactly – some of the same junk – or type of junk – appeared.
Quote:Just because something is new doesn’t mean it is good, and in gambling at least new very likely does NOT mean good. I would guess that this is what Spearmaster is not liking, a sort of revolving door of new sites ranking high then dropping, only to be replaced by another new bit of lint. At least Google doesn’t have the problem with redirect sites that Yahoo does now.It’s not just that, I think – could be wrong but I see some similarities in both Yahoo and Google which are very disturbing – such as one particular .ro site which is totally useless but has about a million or so links to mostly unrelated stuff. And I would assume that those other sites reciprocate probably because it’s the same webmaster.
That .ro site was nowhere to be seen pre-Florida – and if I recall correctly only surfaced again on Google recently but well prior to Brandy.
Quote:Anyway, I think in both cases, today doesn’t matter. We are going to see significant changes in both soon. Google’s pagerank will probably update in the next day or so, then a few days after that I’d expect to see a significant change.We shall see indeed. I think you’ve put together a fairly decent summary of what appears to be occurring… thanks.
Janet – that is pretty damn similar to what I am going to feed Google if it doesn’t shape up quick LOL – but not with my main sites, of course
Content is king if you’re human – but definitely not if you’re a search engine robot.
