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bado463 wrote:Spamming on the internet of the online gambling sector has became epidemic almost. As a webmaster who plays by the rules, I definitely have no problem reporting spamming on the internet.
I understand how frustrating it is to click on a search result and not get the expected results. Well thanks to be able to report these results. I spend about a half an hour a day reporting spamming gambling websites.
I keep one window open for the google spam page as I have it saved in my favorites. Keep another window open with the search results and check the ones that I figure are the spamming websites.
To me it has become second nature to figure out the spammers by their website urls. Usually about 95% correct as to which ones are the spammers with their redirects.
Well I can usually report 30-40 in a half an hour this way, and yes Google has started to remove them…..
It’s good that Google removes them.. It’s also good that spam can be reported… But that’s not the major problemAs long as spam is tolerated, endorsed by ignoring or generated by the program’s direct or indirect employees in order to gain more profits. Spam will exist in such volumes.
You can spend hours of spam reporting, it will not end it!
Why should us, the hard workers spend more time and efforts in fighting it more and more via reports?
If you don’t take weed out from the root, it will grow again and faster.
Once spam is really not tolerated and ignored.. it will decrease.
The guy from Google doing the manual deletions must be on vacation, the last few days:
SPAMMER – redirects from SEOEXP.INFO. This Moscow-based spammer creates new sites every single day.
These sites “silently” redirect from SEOEXP.INFO. Place cursor over the IE BACK button, and you will see the “silent” redirect from SEOEXP.INFO.
These are today’s latest creations:
http://vincentruth.mabulle.com/
http://karlvicky.carookee.com/
http://zackpeggy.carookee.com/
dyhayman these links will be taken care shortly. Check out the graphics for this one http://zaneeric.carookee.com/. Pretty distorted from my browser, ugly. greek39^*
Hey pooh head lets be honest here and make the appropriate changes. I would be grateful.
http://vincentruth.mabulle.com/
http://karlvicky.carookee.com/
http://zackpeggy.carookee.com/
greek39^*
dhayman wrote:The guy from Google doing the manual deletions must be on vacation, the last few days:These generally take at least two weeks, depending on backup.
Has now resorted to new type of spamming “silent” redirects:
http://jimpoker.mabulle.com/
http://zaneeric.carookee.com/
http://vincentruth.mabulle.com/
http://gregoscar.su.pl/
http://karlvicky.carookee.com/
http://stevencaleb.mabulle.com/
http://zackpeggy.carookee.com/
http://adamkimberly.su.pl/NEW ONES:
http://www.vip-blog.com/vip/article/2023927.html
http://www.vip-blog.com/vip/article/2023918.html
http://home.aol.com/bestcasino777/poker-11.html
http://home.aol.com/karavanmo/poker-12.html
http://hometown.aol.de/vtopkunah/poker-9.htmlAnybody going to Moscow any time soon, to beat the crap out of this guy ???
Not only Russia, but a hole gang of them, some from Paris ect…
I am convinced that this has become a lost cause. Crafty spammers will ALWAYS beat the search engines to the punch. This guy (SEOEXP.INFO) realeases sites in a dribble fashion over time, to always replenish those that have been eliminated. Even though he is a skunk, he is a crafty skunk, and I’m afraid to say, he will always win.
I don’t believe the Search Engines have enough negativity at stake here, to combat this, especially since there is Adsense revenue in the mix.
There is a reason for everything, and I cannot believe that the Search Engine designers could not have come up with automated checks and detection to prevent entry of this spam into their indices. Like I said, there is a reason for everything.
Maybe it’s time to go back to work and get a real job……
greek39,
SEOEXP.INFO is from Moscow. He/she is the only one I am commenting
on.They only win if we let them. One of these has already been yanked from google in less than 24 hours. It ranked page 2 out of 127,000,000 pages.
I think I will have a close look at this person. greek39^*
I think I will persue this one, time permitting. Just a briefer:
Here is the NODE
Domain ID:D12977564-LRMS
Domain Name:SEOEXP.INFO
Created On:04-Apr-2006 18:44:49 UTC
Last Updated On:31-Jul-2006 23:50:23 UTC
Expiration Date:04-Apr-2007 18:44:49 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Direct Information Pvt. Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com (R159-LRMS)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:DI_2500786
Registrant Name:Alexander Morohin
Registrant Organization:N/A
Registrant Street1:Moscow
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Moscow
Registrant State/Province:Moskovskaya oblast
Registrant Postal Code:200000
Registrant Country:RU
Registrant Phone:+095.7492794324
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:DI_2500786
Admin Name:Alexander Morohin
Admin Organization:N/A
Admin Street1:Moscow
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Moscow
Admin State/Province:Moskovskaya oblast
Admin Postal Code:200000
Admin Country:RU
Admin Phone:+095.7492794324
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[email protected]
Billing ID:DI_2500786
Billing Name:Alexander Morohin
Billing Organization:N/A
Billing Street1:Moscow
Billing Street2:
Billing Street3:
Billing City:Moscow
Billing State/Province:Moskovskaya oblast
Billing Postal Code:200000
Billing Country:RU
Billing Phone:+095.7492794324
Billing Phone Ext.:
Billing FAX:
Billing FAX Ext.:
Billing Email:[email protected]
Tech ID:DI_2500786
Tech Name:Alexander Morohin
Tech Organization:N/A
Tech Street1:Moscow
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Moscow
Tech State/Province:Moskovskaya oblast
Tech Postal Code:200000
Tech Country:RU
Tech Phone:+095.7492794324
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:[email protected]
Name Server:NS1.JFNS.INFO
Name Server:NS2.JFNS.INFOLocation the domain is being served
Location = Dallas, TX
lat/lon = 32.47n, 96.48w
source = Quova
type = guessNetwork
CustName: Internet Technologies Ltd
Address: Rustavele 48/1 of. 42
Address: IP Management Department
City: Saint Petersburg
StateProv: Saint Petersburg
PostalCode: 199000
Country: RU
RegDate: 2005-10-12
Updated: 2005-10-12NetRange: 72.36.245.1 – 72.36.245.127
CIDR: 72.36.245.1/32, 72.36.245.2/31, 72.36.245.4/30, 72.36.245.8/29, 72.36.245.16/28, 72.36.245.32/27, 72.36.245.64/26
NetName: INTERNET-TECHNOLOGIES-LTD
NetHandle: NET-72-36-245-1-1
Parent: NET-72-36-128-0-1
NetType: Reassigned
Comment: {[email protected]
RegDate: 2005-10-12
Updated: 2005-10-12RTechHandle: JPS66-ARIN
RTechName: Suo-Anttila, Jeremy Paul
RTechPhone: +1-972-398-7998
RTechEmail: [email protected]OrgAbuseHandle: LAT-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: LT Abuse Team
OrgAbusePhone: +1-972-398-7998
OrgAbuseEmail: [email protected]OrgNOCHandle: LIT-ARIN
OrgNOCName: LT IP-Network Team
OrgNOCPhone: +1-972-398-7998
OrgNOCEmail: {[email protected]OrgTechHandle: LNT3-ARIN
OrgTechName: LT NOC Team
OrgTechPhone: +1-972-398-7998
OrgTechEmail: {[email protected]# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2006-08-09 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN’s WHOIS database.greek39^*
Greek,
The only way we can win is 2 ways:
1) Report spam, and have someting done about it. However, this
puts a major dependency on search engine cooperation. We cannot
do it from reporting alone.2) We resort to cheating better than the cheats.
I personally could never do # 2, but this inevitably will be resorted to by some – “if they get away with it, why not me ?” syndrome.
I truly believe it is a lost cause.
Greek,
Yes, I got this info from WHOIS server as well.
This spammer will continue to buy and move around to different subdomains and domains, and when SEOEXP.INFO gets turned off, he/she will move on to using an alternate domain.
You see, we will never win, unless Search Engines decide they want to stop the spam. I see absolutely no indication of that happening.
I am frustrated for sure, but I now understand that I cannot win, and will need to move on accordingly.
The “system” is designed to reward the cheaters, and not the hard-workers. Unfortunately, this is reality…………..
Its not that the system is designed for cheats, malicious blasting. This is huge topic, its in the best interest of the SE’s to stop spam. The system is not perfect and has been that way since the beginning.
These people take a stick of dynamite and blast their way through exploitable holes.
This SEOEXP.INFO is 403 not 404. I will try and find out more and let you know. greek39
dhayman wrote:Greek,The only way we can win is 2 ways:
1) Report spam, and have someting done about it. However, this
puts a major dependency on search engine cooperation. We cannot
do it from reporting alone.2) We resort to cheating better than the cheats.
I personally could never do # 2, but this inevitably will be resorted to by some – “if they get away with it, why not me ?” syndrome.
I truly believe it is a lost cause.
3. Rogue the programs that pay for it, link all our rogue pages, knock the baxxxrds out of their SERPS, and have Google take notice of honest webmasters trying to clean up their industry.
Works, too!!!!
