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@Caseym 240881 wrote:
Think of it as having a boss you hate:P
Exactly right!
But that’s one of the big reasons I like this casino affiliate business – no boss telling me what to do and how to do it. I can figuratively ‘flip ’em off’.
At least when I whine and cry about google they are too big and indifferent to care or notice!!
you can go to webmaster tools and have your site removed from the index, that would send a clear message that your fed up with google
I dont think they are lazy and stupid per say.. I think the problem is that if you look at a keyword like online casino for example, there will be millions of relevant pages. So if you look based on content alone, there could be thousands of unique pages, each matching exact criteria in terms of readability, relevance, keyword density, etc. So there has to be another factor to base it on.
With links it gives them the opportunity to factor in so many other variables, like taking into account the thousands of linking sites and crunching the relevancy of those pages with the algo. There is just too many pages on the net to do it without links. I cant imagine another way for them to process value other than to randomly rank sites based on nothing.
Just my opinion
@Play 240913 wrote:
I dont think they are lazy and stupid per say.. I think the problem is that if you look at a keyword like online casino for example, there will be millions of relevant pages. So if you look based on content alone, there could be thousands of unique pages, each matching exact criteria in terms of readability, relevance, keyword density, etc. So there has to be another factor to base it on.
With links it gives them the opportunity to factor in so many other variables, like taking into account the thousands of linking sites and crunching the relevancy of those pages with the algo. There is just too many pages on the net to do it without links. I cant imagine another way for them to process value other than to randomly rank sites based on nothing.
Just my opinion
Well, I’d really rather stay in the index if it’s OK with them.
And Sure, raw website content would not give the proper result to someone looking for ‘online casinos’. But because some large site has enough money to surreptitiously buy links should not give them more rank than someone really playing by all the so-called rules.
I think google is on the right track in putting more emphasis on user engagement rather than skewing results toward link authority/volume.
I called them lazy because I wish they would rely less on links. I called them stupid because they are not to that ponit yet.
As everyone knows, they are anything but stupid!
@jopaa 240842 wrote:
Unfortunately this is not going to happen in the near future.
Choose one evil empire or the other lol
@bingoadvantage 241197 wrote:
Choose one evil empire or the other lol
Careful, dude.
The last time someone in power characterized three countries as an ‘evil empire’ one of them threatened to nuke us all.
It’s a good thing google is too big and arrogant to ‘come after’ anyone individually when they are ‘questioned’.
Their power over my websites as well as their depth of knowledge about my personal activities are becoming a little worrisome. If I were a little paranoid, I might be more worried.
Consider:
Google Search
Chrome
Google Maps
Android
GoogleToolbarNotifier.exeIf you do it right:
They know what you are thinking (search,chrome)
They know where you are going (google maps)
They know where you are (android – gps)
They know what you are saying (android)
And they will know if you have ‘figured it all out’ (GoogleToolbarNotifier.exe)Time to get out the tinfoil, make some hats and cover the windows?
Have a nice day!by the registrar data they know where you live and which sites you have, with google webmaster tools they can even get more info about your sites. Google says not to use that info ……… right ……. with the latest Penguin update I can not imagine that they have not ….
@Inspiration 241392 wrote:
by the registrar data they know where you live and which sites you have, with google webmaster tools they can even get more info about your sites. Google says not to use that info ……… right ……. with the latest Penguin update I can not imagine that they have not ….
What they say and what they do are said to be completely different sometimes.
It’s like listening to a politician. You know there is an ‘agenda’ but not always the one that they are talking about.
@casinodude 241398 wrote:
Do they no if i make a blog on a blog site thats not on blogger?
I suppose it all depends upon what ‘footprint’ you leave on the blog.
If you are creating a link wheel, I hear they can spot those pretty well.
Everyone has a different opinion, but I hear you need to do them like interconnecting spiders with only one leg touching each other.Does anyone know of any link strategy that still works?
I totally agree with you and always have. It is an outdated model. At the start it was a good way to judge which sites people find helpful. But the concept assumes that people only link whenever they find something useful and want to help. That idea has been perverted beyond the extreme and now has no relevance. They should create an algorithm that simply identifies how much unique content is on a site and how relevant it is to that topic. They can and already have started to move that way. But like you said they are lazy and stupid. And they are also STUBBORN!
@rmeeuwsen 241434 wrote:
I suppose it all depends upon what ‘footprint’ you leave on the blog.
If you are creating a link wheel, I hear they can spot those pretty well.
Everyone has a different opinion, but I hear you need to do them like interconnecting spiders with only one leg touching each other.Does anyone know of any link strategy that still works?
Okay thanks, no its not linking to my site or linkwheeling . Its just a blog for my affiliate pages as my sites starting to get chunkers now with all these animations i’m doing my page speed is down to 60 something on google page speed check – on full blown vps level nine still not handeling it. Might have to go to dedicated.
Thanks for your help cheers:cheers:
@JillO 240843 wrote:
Deep thoughts rmeeuswen… And so many valid points. I agree with allfreechips… if you can find a better way, count me in! I would absolutely invest in you.
Count me in, I’ll invest too haha
I was thinking we should all work together in creating a big casino advertising network there doesn’t seem to be any decent ones out there that we can all advertise on. Some sort of automated system – then we no the clicks are real not some bot network.
@dolfan20 241438 wrote:
I totally agree with you and always have. It is an outdated model. At the start it was a good way to judge which sites people find helpful. But the concept assumes that people only link whenever they find something useful and want to help. That idea has been perverted beyond the extreme and now has no relevance. They should create an algorithm that simply identifies how much unique content is on a site and how relevant it is to that topic. They can and already have started to move that way. But like you said they are lazy and stupid. And they are also STUBBORN!
To stay with an outdated model they must have a vested interest in it.
Seems we are stuck with the system – for now……..
SO then, what link strategies still work?
