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May 30, 2005 at 3:04 pm #666229
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InactiveThanks for the heads up. All sites should rogue them for this activity.
May 30, 2005 at 3:46 pm #666231Anonymous
InactiveWell can someone explain me a thing: Is it possible to put a name on a baby like Goldenpalacedotcom Silveman, in the US?
May 30, 2005 at 5:49 pm #666236Anonymous
InactiveHmm. I quite liked their marketing stunts…but this isn’t good. It’s distasteful and wrong. Kids should be kept out of it. I think they have crossed the line this time. The parents are to blame though, selling their child’s identity like that.
May 31, 2005 at 2:32 am #666246Anonymous
InactiveThis has upset me a lot and I am not easily upset. El and I have promoted GP widely and particularly the poker. I would not make a stink over a program we make good money with in a fit of self righteousness. What they have done is utterly wrong.
We have redirected all our links to http://www.savethechildren.org/
To put a child at such a disadvantage in what is a a hard enough world already is beyond belief.
May 31, 2005 at 6:10 am #666247Anonymous
InactiveSo much for responsible gambling. :cuss:
I have given Golden Palace front page publicity on my largest casino site for this stupid stunt.
It is stunts like these which help give our industry a bad press.
May 31, 2005 at 12:30 pm #666254Anonymous
InactiveQuote:WTF is this? Even involving children in the gambling industry? I want an answer and I want one now or I will blanket ban any and every entity involved in this low down crap!deaning .. you’re promoting casinos, one of the most shady and gray areas in affiliate marketing on the Web and you’re getting upset. LOL, that’s a joke … what you need to do is get off your high horse and stop promoting online casinos period, because you’re helping to bankrupt the mothers and fathers of real children … anyone who is promoting online casinos can’t talk about MORAL anything, PERIOD .. so enough of the charade.
May 31, 2005 at 1:02 pm #666258Anonymous
InactiveLet’s be careful to keep this thread civil.
May 31, 2005 at 1:43 pm #666265Anonymous
Inactiveantonym wrote:deaning .. you’re promoting casinos, one of the most shady and gray areas in affiliate marketing on the Web and you’re getting upset. LOL, that’s a joke … what you need to do is get off your high horse and stop promoting online casinos period, because you’re helping to bankrupt the mothers and fathers of real children … anyone who is promoting online casinos can’t talk about MORAL anything, PERIOD .. so enough of the charade.Hmm, frankly, I don’t know how you can work in this industry if you think it is so bad.
Addicted gamblers are very rare compared to alcoholics, drug addicts and nicotine addicts. Gambling addiction can be treated and the relapse rate is almost zero. Try that with other addictions. The corner store selling beer and cigarettes is considerablty more immoral than someone advertising casinos.
I for one pride myself in screening casinos and only promoting those that treat players well, as well as being there for my players when they run into difficulties.
I feel good about what I do, or I would not do it.
May 31, 2005 at 2:04 pm #666267Anonymous
InactiveI agree with Dean. There are lines that should not be crossed. If an adult decides to gamble, or drink, or smoke or whatever then that is their right and they will have to deal with the consequences. A child on the other hand does not have the maturity level, or in this case the choice, to make these decisions.
When I gamble, I have a complete understanding of what I am doing and the possible repurcusions of my actions.
May 31, 2005 at 2:08 pm #666268Anonymous
InactiveIn addition, Dean is running a business and if he chooses not to promote certain programs for whatever reason, it is his choice. It is a business decision, and he nor anyone else should be ridiculed for this type of decision.
May 31, 2005 at 3:29 pm #666275Anonymous
InactiveHere we go again with the “family-friendly business” issue.
you’re helping to bankrupt the mothers and fathers of real children … anyone who is promoting online casinos can’t talk about MORAL anything, PERIOD .. so enough of the charade.
All companies I know, try hard to sell goods and services to people. They first create a necessity where it does not exist, and then they sell more and more. They try hard to make part on your monthly expenses. It does not matter wether you need that product or not. It does not even matter wether you have the money to afford it or not. They give you credit if you don’t have it. And they give you again and again, until you’re totally bankrupt.
The employee of a computer shop is a moral one. He sells computers to people. He sells computers because someone wants to buy it. He don’t care if the person to whom he is selling the computer does not have money to afford it. He don’t care if that person will have trouble with the bank or credit agency in the future. It’s not his business. He has the moral to speak about anything.
I could say, the gambling webmaster is a moral one. He points people who want to gamble to the best casinos. He does that because someone wants it. He don’t care if the person to whom he is selling that service does not have the money to afford gambling. He don’t care if that person will have trouble with the bank or credit agency in the future. It’s not his business. He has the moral to speak about anything.
Unfortunately money moves this world. There is no particular person responsible for this, and excuses like: “that’s not my job” does not make anyone more moral than any other. What is imoral is the system we have.
Too much coca-cola is bad to health, mcdonalds food is the worst thing I know, tobacco is also bad to health, gambling more than you can afford is bad.
I can’t do too much on that. Although I’m happy to be on gambling industry. There is one thing that I can do. I redirect some of the funds people spend on gambling to where they’re most needed – to UNICEF. Well, I retain funds for me, it’s true. Maybe I should give more. But if I was on other business I couldn’t do that, I’m sure.
May 31, 2005 at 3:39 pm #666276Anonymous
Inactiveantonym wrote:deaning .. you’re promoting casinos, one of the most shady and gray areas in affiliate marketing on the Web and you’re getting upset. LOL, that’s a joke … what you need to do is get off your high horse and stop promoting online casinos period, because you’re helping to bankrupt the mothers and fathers of real children … anyone who is promoting online casinos can’t talk about MORAL anything, PERIOD .. so enough of the charade.I believe a webmaster who promotes a casino can moralise about a murder, about drunk drivers, about poverty in the 3rd world, about pollutants and so on.
>> Possibly what you really mean is you think Golden Palace are “in order” using a baby as advertising for gambling.
>> On the other hand you find a gambling webmaster moralising about a baby being used as advertising for gambling a “joke”.May 31, 2005 at 3:59 pm #666277Anonymous
Inactiveallseeing wrote:The parents are to blame though, selling their child’s identity like that.True. Both parties are to blame, not just Golden Palace. Golden Palace didn’t force the name upon the child. The child’s father created the auction and only wanted $15,000 (“Buy It Now”) for the naming rights — that’s extremely low if you ask me.According to the GP website, this isn’t the first baby to be named GoldanPalace.com. Here, it says that “other babies also share the casino’s name.” And, “You can expect more baby-naming in the future as I am sure other people will follow suit and be looking to auction off the naming rights to their children.”
I think this whole practice of selling a baby’s name is reprehensible. Shame on the parents, and shame on Golden Palace for encouraging it. Please, leave the children out of it. There are hundreds of other ways to advertise; this definitely should not be one of them.
I noticed something strange about the auction — Golden Palace won the auction less than 2 minutes after it began.
Start time: Mar-07-05 08:05:00 PST
Ended: Mar-07-05 08:06:46 PSTIs it just me, or is that highly unusual? Does Golden Palace have someone sitting there watching for these opportunities on eBay 24 hours a day? Either GP knew about the auction beforehand, or it’s a huge coincidence. Something seems “off” about this.
antonym wrote:you’re helping to bankrupt the mothers and fathers of real children …
anyone who is promoting online casinos can’t talk about MORAL anything, PERIODI disagree. People who lack self control when it comes to gambling will bankrupt themselves anyway, without anyone else’s help. I could go on about this, but I’m not going to. Sharpgambler made some good points in his post.May 31, 2005 at 4:55 pm #666282Anonymous
Inactivesharpgambler, i think you missed my point .. which is basically that anyone who is promoting an industry which is itself arguably morally wrong, should not then go throwing stones at the behaviour of certain entities within that “morally wrong” industry. that is the irony of all ironies.
but make no bones about it, i promote casinos 100% for the money, the money, and nothing but the money. it’s others ‘drawing the line’ and trying to create ‘shades of grey’ on certain topics that get me going.
who cares if they offer to pay the family to name the child after a casino. blame the parents! if you’re yelling about that you might as well go after fast food companies for helping to create a new generation of semi-obese young people!
May 31, 2005 at 5:14 pm #666283Anonymous
Inactive“but make no bones about it, i promote casinos 100% for the money, the money, and nothing but the money.”
Pure poetry :hattip:
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