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Surely some of you have some very good friends who reside outside America.
Why not sign over your website to them and have your buddy just send you your money each month?
I know it’s not the best of ideas but maybe better then nothing.
Another thought is what if we only target non-US players. Say, you put a big fat warning on your site that Americans can’t use your site & also you host your site outside the country. Also, request that the affiliate program not accept or pay you for players from the US. Of course the revenues would be drastically less, but at least it would be something. Aiding & abetting is the main concern webmasters have, but it’s avoidable by targeting players in friendlier countrys. Is this a possibility? Anyone else have opinions on this?
That’s an idea that would work, but you’d really have to trust your partner!
Fergie wrote:That’s an idea that would work, but you’d really have to trust your partner!Exactly! Of course you’d have to have trust, which is why a “Friend” is needed , why give up all your work, you do not need to!
By the way, I’m not suggesting that I get involved with anything!!!
Just an idea for others that would work!@
I’ll be your friend
I wouldn’t want to sign my site over to a stranger either – best to go with a relative or friend. But if you don’t have anyone I’ll be happy to help – I have a forum with thousands of members and give away thousands of dollars to them that they have to trust I will pay – been doing it for years so am trustworthy – you can ask them
I’ve actually had some real sweet offers in this area.. there are plenty of folks outside of the US willing to help us out.
dalster44 wrote:Exactly! Of course you’d have to have trust, which is why a “Friend” is needed , why give up all your work, you do not need to!By the way, I’m not suggesting that I get involved with anything!!!
Just an idea for others that would work!@
I’m based outside the US and offer such partnerships to everyone who is intersted. I am willing to host the sites outside the US and provide FTP access to the partners so they can keep working on the sites.
The partnership i offer Does Not require to transfer the domain to me. I understans people will have trusting difficulties.
If transfering the domain will become a must, i believe there are ways to ensure the owner his rights.
So it’s quite simple, you keep running your site and get the payments to your Neteller account as usual. Only then you will transfer my part to me.
I think this is a very good offer and willing to discuss the partnership percentages with anyone. The other options of selling the site cheap or shut it down are less attractive.
Signing everything over to someone else will be difficult. Putting up warning sign or excluding US visitors via geo-targeting would be feasible in my opinion. To be absolutely sure not to be exposed to further mood swings by the DOJ I´d also host abroad.
dalster44 wrote:Why not sign over your website to them and have your buddy just send you your money each month?I know it’s not the best of ideas but maybe better then nothing.
:laughing: I’m sure you will find loads of crackers who would be eager to set up such a deal.
People the US government is not going to kick down your doors and take your websites. Most likely 99% sure, if they wanted to stop you they would send you a cease and desist order and you would then have 30-60 days to take your sites down.
The saying goes something like 10% of affiliates make up 90% of the earnings you small fish dont have a thing to worry about. Come on why in the world would the big giant US government want to target little guys? For that matter why would they want to target a few big affiliates? They want the big companies that are making billions not us.
Dont sell your sites, dont hand them over to some cracker, keep them up and making YOU money. Amend your current disclaimer to include no funding clauses. and draw attention to the 6-7 states who have state laws. Other than that its going to be business as usual for me. Yah I know Im on one side of the fence one day and on the other the next; but today I am sober.
Just my 2 cents, my sites will be up next week and making me money. I am confident that most if not all of the casinos I work with will still be accepting US players, if their legal teams say its ok to do so, its certainly ok for me to have a portal.
I’m with you, Axl.
There’s been a lot of initial panic, but I think the thing to do for now is stay the course until we fully understand what ramifications this new bill will have on us.
Too many are making very important decisions based on speculation.
The casinos themselves can help by sending emails to U.S. players to assure them that, at least for the time being and based on the wording of the new bill, gambling online is NOT illegal and they will be pursuing alternative methods of payment.
If there is someone who is outside the US has been on this board for a few years and has built up the trust of the community on here then I don’t think it would be unwise for that person to become a central protector of affiliate sites.
I think this plan would work best if one person, or a few people working as partners, were to take care of affiliates’ sites together – kind of like a holding company. This central party could offer a single communication channel to all their affiliates thus making the process much more efficient. Affiliates who were looking to have this done wouldn’t have to worry about finding someone reputable or getting ripped off. And any issues could be addressed through a central communication channel like CAP.
In exchange for this, the holding company could charge 1-2% of profits annually. Someone mentioned 10% but I don’t think affiliates are willing to give back that much just to a passive holdeer – especially since profits will be going down substantially already. I think a central holding company could gather enough sites – good sites – that they would be protecting about $5 million in affiliate earnings annually. A 1-2% cut would be US$50,000-$100,000profit annually for the holding company while not being a substantial cost to the affiliate.
I started this thread as an alternative to anybody concerned.
I have ZERO interest in making a deal with anybody.
People do have friends Axl that can be trusted, believe it or not.
I’m not talking web buddies, I’m talking close friends.
Last post I make on this board till things settle down and get real again.
Its getting crazy, same thread over and over again.
Good Luck and all the best
