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November 30, 2006 at 8:24 pm #717412
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InactiveCool, and I bet it will spread throughout Europe.
November 30, 2006 at 8:35 pm #717413Anonymous
InactiveYea… I hope so, Dom…
I say that the programs wouldn’t listen to us, but maybe I should take some ownership of what’s happened in America. I mean look at it: In Germany it’s a private group vs. the government… not the online casinos. The APCW should have been more aggressive, I suppose. But we all know how hindsight is, right?
To be fair, no one in the States ever believed a bill would pass… and I was told countless times by casino exec’s not to worry… that there was no need to panic… that if I needed to be concerned they would let me know… all of which was bull caca.
Now the Germans are proactive, and that’s great. I wish we (in America) could have had a big warning like they got from watching us. That woulda got our lazy butts motivated a bit more.
November 30, 2006 at 9:22 pm #717415
vladcizsolMemberThis summer I said a number of times that I thought legislation was likely due to the increased pressure by Frist and the Republican majority in both the House and Senate. Most everyone poo poo ed that possibility and I was even accused of fear mongering. I think because of the prevailing attitude of “They will never pass the law” most people didnt do anything. I wish I had been wrong.
Hats off to the Germans for taking a proactive stance before their rights are further eroded.
November 30, 2006 at 9:44 pm #717417Anonymous
InactiveProfessor,
I shared the dire view as well for many, many months. We literally lost (a portion) of our livelihood by one stinkin’ day ! Had Frist not maneuvered in the 23rd hour, we’d probably be home-free for a couple of years, at least.
What we need to hope for now is one of a couple of things:
1) WTO allows for compensatory damage to Antigua, by lifting
digital rights restrictions on things like music, DVD’s, software, etc.
This will rattle the chains of these (powerful) factions, which could
result in the eventual over-turn of the anti-gambling legislation. It
will be interesting to see how this plays out early next year;2) New “Democratic” Congress doesn’t push hard for the implementation
of the new anti-gambling legislation on the part of the banking
industry. Failure or “inability” to implement the banking sanctions, may
allow this law to wither away and die;3) Although # 1 and # 2 may pave the way for the legalization of online
gambling in the U.S., we have to hope that this gets pushed out as long
as possible. Land-based casino involvement in online gambling, will
result in the demise of the current providers. Additionally, it’s hard to
fathom the land-based casinos relying on affiliates to market their
product. Thus, as legalization prevails, the affiliate industry begins to
wither and die, as we know it today.Personally, I’m hoping that # 1 and # 2 result in the legislation not being
implemented, and I hope that # 3 takes its sweet-ass time. I’d love to be
able to squeeze another couple of years out of this business, even if it is
in a reduced manner, that we’ve all recognized since 10/13/06.December 1, 2006 at 3:13 am #717436Anonymous
InactiveGo Germans! :capmiami:
Hope Norway doing the same!
December 1, 2006 at 4:57 am #717446Anonymous
InactiveJust wanted to clarify something … online gambling is already considered illegal in Germany. But with this new proposed law they are wanting to take it to a U.S. type approach by cutting of the money at the bank level and/or disabling websites at the ISP level.
Nevertheless, I apploud BWIN for this awareness campaign :chearlead
December 1, 2006 at 11:36 am #717461Anonymous
InactiveWhile Online gambling is considered illegal in Germany …
I seem to remember seeing quite a lot of sports betting “wetten” shops in my travels through Germany during WC2006.
Based on what I saw it’s the local betting shops that would like to ban online access – their prices were appalling compared to the online sportsbooks …
:notify:It’s not “online” thats worrying these people – it’s competition – and the EU will see through the very obvious ploy …
(I hope)
:laughing:December 1, 2006 at 12:33 pm #717463Anonymous
InactiveBased on what I saw it’s the local betting shops that would like to ban online access – their prices were appalling compared to the online sportsbooks …
No, in some states these shops were already forced to go out of business. In the South more than 500 had to close in the last few months.
The campaign is good. But in a way it´s similar to the US situtation. All the laws have been passed, gambling is illegal and now somebody is starting a campaign. Maybe the last part is the only difference – somebody did launch a campaign at least -
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