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Congrats on the expansion, quality acquisitions!
GamesandCasino is one of the largest and most comprehensive gaming sites on the web. It has some 1,500,000 visitors per month and experiences constant growth.
Dominique, could you please clarify, is that figure, “unique visitors”, “number of visits” or what?
Is that figure just from gamesandcasino.com or from your network of sites?
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Just GamesandCasino, and that is visitors, not uniques. GamesandCasino has a large number of return visitors who stop by frequently, and they are in that count.
It also includes those who go there and think: “what the heck is that dinosaur doing online?” and split.
Wow, I just cant fathom 1,500,000 visitors a month. Thats 50,000 visitors a day!!!!
How many unique visitors and pageviews does the site get on average a month?
On average approximately how many real money actual depositing players does than translate into a month? Id be guessing 1500 – 2000.
I cant imagine having that number of visitors either… it by far rivals anything that I can pull off… congrats!
I thought i was doing well with 5000 unique ips a day lol.Probably not difficult for a forum though as we have 4 computers that visit cap several times a day ,so just us probably count at 6000 or so a month for lou.
This is not uniques, this is just visitors, and no, there are not anywhere near that many new depositing players.
You have to take into account that this is more like a reference and entertainment site. It has over 7000 pages and most of them are purely a public service and do not generate any revenue.
The vast majority of visitors come in by bookmark. Most are there to look something up. Most of these are experienced players who are already signed up under you guys. Plus, like I said above, this also includes those who do not stay around.
I am not going to post all my stats, but I was tickled to see the traffic flow reach that number recently and thought to include it in the press release. :tongue:
A site that large is also quite difficult to keep userfriendly. With a small site, the answer to the visitor’s question is usually just a click away. This is impossible to achieve with a mammoth site. So you do lose visitors because they are not inclined to click through to what they are looking for. If I chopped it all up into 100 page sites, there would likely be a lot less visitors and more uniques and sales per page.
It’s just a different business model from most sites. It has it’s pros and cons. It took seven years to build, for one year I made no money, what little it brought in went back into it. And for another three years I invested most revenues back into it. It took trust in the future, patience and lots and lots of unpaid work.
Today, 4 months of the year I work purely for the IRS, 4 months I work purely for staff, and the rest I work for myself.
I am not complaining, it works out for me. I did set out to create a fun, mammoth site from the start, and I wasn’t driven as much by the money as by the project itself. I had no idea how it would turn out, and most affiliates back in the day told me I was nuts and the site was useless.
I never built for search engines or aff programs, I always built purely for the player. It’s nice to know players appreciate it.
Who doesn’t appreciate it is the United States – afterall, I work 4 months of the year for the IRS and 4 months for US citizen’s livelihood. I am good for the economy. The whole industry could be a savior to the US economy, but people are too blind to see it.
Lol, you must be a great fisherman, Dominique.
I see an Alexa ranking of 200,000+ and Quantcast estimate of 7.6K visitors monthly, 1,500,000 “whatever” is a far stretch. Maybe you meant 1,500,000 bits of data transferred monthly? :wink-wink
The figure came from last month’s awstats.
I’d guess the analytics program used (I am not familiar with mentioned awstats before I now checked it from Wikipedia) is maybe somehow interpreted or configured wrong in this case. Maybe it’s 1,5 million page views if the site is large that would be possible number…maybe. But I tend to agree with others that 1,5 mil visits can’t be right, since for example Google Trends is not listing the site and it lists every site with over ~2,500 unique visitors per day when searching for websites and 1,5 mil visits/month would definitely mean at least 10,000+ uniques per day.
Usually 1.5 mil visits per month mean about 500,000 uniques per month (from public stats listing sevices I checked for average ratios between total visit/unique visitors) -> 16,000 uniques per day with 1,5 mil total visits per month. Even if the site in question would somehow be much, much below average in total visits/unique visitors ratio, the number could never be under Google Trends listing criteria (~2,500 uniques per day), when the average ratio would result into about 16,000 uniques per day.
For example this casinoaffiliateprograms.com makes the Google Trends listing barely with a bit over 3,000 uniques per day (about 300,000 total visits per month if this is about an average site in terms of uniques/total visits ratio). So gamesandcasino should be about 5 times more popular site than this casinoaffiliateprograms.com to have those kind of visit numbers…I don’t think so.
So I’d recommend you to check the configuration of your current web analytics program you mentioned about. There’s something wrong for sure in the reports it is producing currently.
@AiruaL 177992 wrote:
For example this casinoaffiliateprograms.com makes the Google Trends listing barely with a bit over 3,000 uniques per day (about 300,000 total visits per month if this is about an average site in terms of uniques/total visits ratio). So gamesandcasino should be about 5 times more popular site than this casinoaffiliateprograms.com to have those kind of visit numbers…I don’t think so.
So I’d recommend you to check the configuration of your current web analytics program you mentioned about. There’s something wrong for sure in the reports it is producing currently.
You are dead wrong. CAP is most likely NOT more popular than G&C. Players and affiliates alike will search for casino information and they go (in many cases) to G&C based upon search results. Couple that with a site that has been online for a VERY long time and has many, many individuals bookmarking various pages there….. WAY more popular than CAP, IMO.
CAP is only for affiliates…. G&C is for affiliates, players, researchers….
Well, on every other case Google Trands stats for websites have been very, very accurate (within 10% absolute real visits stats), so I’d guess there can’t be at least that huge of an error there. Other statistic sites also show same kind of results as presented by “Stupid” above.
What comes to CAP, I believe the numbers shown at Google Trends based on the forum traffic numbers visible to everyone in the bottom of the forums. The fact that G&C is more general site doesn’t mean that it attracts more visits automatically.
Guys – DUH!
I reread the release, I kep wondering how uniques got in all the replies and I also got some PMs – I am correcting the mistake – it’s HITS and not Visits. Thanks for being persistent, CAPpers. I can still correct the press release.
And FYI it’s 65.45 Hits/Visit and 32.1 Pages/Visit. ( people spend time poking around) The interesting thing about it is that 91.1 % of visits (yes, visits) are from bookmarks and address, only 3 % are from search engines, and the rest is from other sites.
After ruling divine in google with hundreds of #1 spots that never budged, about a year ago google decided to banish us to google hell, and I never figured out why. Just about at the exact same time yahoo decided they loved us. There isn’t all that much traffic from yahoo compared to google, but it’s enough to sustain growth and infuse enough new visitors to keep us moving right along.
You really can’t compare message boards with portals, message boards have a naturally high return visit rate. A good message board also has a lot of viral promotion, people telling people.
Gamesandcasino is unusual in that it has the stats and viral promotion resembling a message board more so than a portal.
Believe it or not, I am kinda happy that we went to google hell. There is life after google for a quality site. Not to say that life with google wouldn’t be even better, but to me relative independence from search engines makes for a much more solid foundation to work from. I am not nearly as stressed about things since this happened. I feel a lot safer now. I always thought without google there would be no life for me online.
Re. statistics from google, Alexa, quantcast, and all the others, they interestingly all dropped like a bomb when google sent us to hell. You can see it in alexa long charts. They seem to all be somehow connected to google exposure. I have no idea how they get their info, but apparently that is a big part of it.
Be that as it may, I have to apologize for the error in the press release and thank everyone for waking me up to it!
With Google owning 75% of the search engine market I don’t think I can live without it lol.I don’t even check yahoo and MSN etc although my biggest player EVER came to me via Altavista of all places.
@casinobonusguy 178079 wrote:
With Google owning 75% of the search engine market I don’t think I can live without it lol.I don’t even check yahoo and MSN etc although my biggest player EVER came to me via Altavista of all places.
I don’t think most portals can live without google, busy message boards are more likely to, and reference sites can too, me thinks. Also, google is indispensable for new starts.
:wink-wink
[The interesting thing about it is that 91.1 % of visits (yes, visits) are from bookmarks and address,
No way does the site get 91% traffic from bookmarks and direct address, no matter how good it is.
I have a site with AWSTATS and it says Direct address / Bookmarks 54.2%
I know t that doesnt mean a maximum of 45.8% comes from search engines. Doesnt make sense.
However, if I add up total hits from search engines and work out as % of total number of visitors it equals 77%, now that figure makes alot more sense. Leaving 23% as visits from other sites and a bookmarks/direct address.
Id find it hard to believe only 9% of gamesandcasino’s traffic comes from search engines, even if it doesnt get much from google.
I think if you add up total hits from search engines and then work out as % of “number of visits” it will be above 9%. Id put money on it!
Just letting you know, so you understand the traffic. ((by all means correct me if Im wrong))
