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January 28, 2005 at 10:27 pm #660803
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InactiveI personally do VERY well with them. But they are a older group and it does take more visits to get players.
Player rentention is very high.
1 out of every 7 downloads is a purchasing player for me.I know how you feel, if a group is doing well for you and you have another one wanting position. You can’t give up a spot on homepage for the risk of another group that doesnt work for you. Not all casinos work on all sites.
January 28, 2005 at 11:31 pm #660805Anonymous
InactiveI’m sorry to say that I haven’t had much luck with their program either.
January 30, 2005 at 1:51 am #660826Anonymous
InactiveI’m with Ronda, we do well with them. I felt the way Fergie did for a year or so, showing similar stats. But since the poker rooms came out, we’ve started making decent money with them.
January 30, 2005 at 5:33 am #660828Anonymous
InactiveFergie, which casino you promote?
I’ve found out that Royal Vegas and Platinum Play do a better job than the others
January 30, 2005 at 10:27 am #660831Anonymous
GuestFergie I am going to do some promoting of their sites in the coming months as a way of answering a few questions I have of my own, such as before the new stats were added; I did shitty with Fortune. My stats were much like yours, pretty decent looking until you got to the profit column. There it was way below expectation on a consistent basis.
Since they’ve added the new stats I can say I’ve tested them a few times and they’ve always showed up right; which was encouraging.
Now however I still have that one last question to be answered, “are they going to be competitive in the profit column as other similar programs?”
before new stats – I can clearly say that NO, they were not competitive in the profit column as other similar programs
after new stats – I will let you know in a few months.
January 30, 2005 at 3:56 pm #660834Anonymous
InactiveThey don’t convert for me.
What few players I get are average players.
February 2, 2005 at 2:48 pm #660968Anonymous
InactiveFergie,
I never did well with them and when I was publicly critical they closed my account …. They performed very poorly compared to about any other casinos that I have ever used … :bath:
February 2, 2005 at 2:49 pm #660969Anonymous
InactiveAs well they love to toot there own horn :Partier:
February 2, 2005 at 5:48 pm #661002Anonymous
GuestHi again,
the way I look at it; is if they really just had tracking issues (with the old system) then anyone still promoting them should see a much better bottom line than the old days.
A program (this or any other) can only cry “tech glitch, human error or the dog ate my homework” for so long.
For me, I am willing to give them another chance. I won’t, in fact can’t afford to carry them for very long however.
I truly hope that 3 months from now I can claim they’ve come close to expectations. What I am seeing so far is not overly-promising but I figure in another 8 – 10 weeks I will be able to make a statement about them with much more confidence so for now I will keep my fingers crossed.
I do think the transparency of the stats reporting is a good thing, but (and please correct me if I’m wrong) : but I think the reporting still is not in real time, and anytime there is a gap between the time my testers deposit, and the time it shows up in stats, it obviously leaves room for doubt about whether all the income is being reported.
I DO believe however that all the signups are being reported simply because if there is any intential cheating being done, IMHO its being done via the use of cross-marketing without giving the aff credit, or by simply waiting a few months and then removing the player from the aff’s account. I say that not with any one progam in mind, but rather offer it as the most logical and efficient way of cheating us.
That puts FL in a tight spot however because I will say this about them, and always have: FL surely should have excellent player retention because I know I am often swayed by the offers they send in email and that was even back when I had issues with them, so I know if I am tempted to play then surely many others are.
Yet the past has proven this not to be the case; I hope that problem was cured when they installed the new stats tracking however. Time will tell that tale soon enough.
The lack of retention has been the biggest reason they have held so few positions on my sites up until now. I could live with the poor conversion ratio; but when I finally get a player; I expect some kick-ass effort at keeping the player for an extended period of time.
I feel I’m taking a big leap of faith to even still have them on my sites when considering the past 4 years.
I hope I am rewarded pleasantly, God knows I deserve it considering the past performances.
February 4, 2005 at 5:10 pm #661161Anonymous
InactiveI have to say as well if they had major tracking problems then when they fixed these there should have been a huge increase. And as well they should have compensated old time affiliates considerably and publicly which neither case did I see. I have seen major problems with them sice the began and with so many other companies out there why should anyone risk there hard earned traffic on this sort of incompetence. I am not saying people should not get a second chance but I gave them many personally …. I would not use them again even if I could …
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