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February 14, 2006 at 5:21 pm #683489
vladcizsolMemberThis is totally bizarre. If anyone has a clue please post it. I kind of wish I could get free traffic too.
February 14, 2006 at 10:14 pm #683530Anonymous
InactiveCan anybody firgure this out! its kinda important. Any insight would be appreciated. greek39
February 14, 2006 at 10:28 pm #683532Anonymous
InactiveThere are various possibilities here:
Have a look at this:
xxwww.bruceclay.com/searchenginechart.pdf
No you will see that your site could have been included in the SE’s you list one of three main ways 1) a DMOZ listing 2) Google SERPS 3) Paid for inclusion in Teoma.
That’s the only logical conclusion I have.
What are they appearing as – organic serps or in a sponsored results box of some sorts?
February 14, 2006 at 10:45 pm #683534Anonymous
InactiveThat was interesting I really appreciate it. I did apply to DMOZ about 4 months ago but I am not listed. If I understand the chart correctly the DMOZ could set off a chain reaction.
Keep in mind I never pay for traffic, listings, links, advertising, well basically nothing. Yahoo I am indexed but not ranked. This is going to be pretty wierd being listed on all the major se except yahoo. Yahoo just don’t like me.
I quess this will remain a mystery?
February 15, 2006 at 5:57 am #683583Anonymous
Guestword of advice. whatever pages are getting traffic; don’t fix them
February 15, 2006 at 12:07 pm #683602Anonymous
InactiveI’ve noticed that I’m listed in those engines too – at least according to the CAP tool.
I’ve never paid for any advertising either … but I am in DMOZ.
February 15, 2006 at 12:12 pm #683603Anonymous
InactiveYeah, I am listed as well, got in the first page of most of them, but how – I have no clue… I think most of them get their results by getting your “average” position from Google, MSN and Yahoo.
Either way, I get almost no traffic (at least not any good traffic) from those.
February 15, 2006 at 1:39 pm #683610Anonymous
InactiveI thank everyone for their responses. I guess luck has something to do with it. Also I think DMOZ is about to put me in, maybe. I don’t really like DMOz but if they put me on paid inclusion engines for free why not. Again thanks greek39
February 15, 2006 at 2:28 pm #683615Anonymous
InactiveGreek39, the “lesser” search engines agressively crawl the web and indexes anything they can find. Once you are listed with iWon or a range of other smaller SEs of that sort, you will be listed with them all – it’s their way of keeping up with the larger competition. It’ a matter of how long they take to find you.
You would not have to be on a paid SE for them to find you. Most likely, one of those smaller SEs were on a list of one of the free search engine services we sometimes use – you know the ones, where they will submit your URL for free to a handful of search engines, but for $$$ they will submit to 150.
Or you could have submitted your URL for free to only one small search engine which was crawled by the others.These smaller SEs do not have webmasters begging to get listed like DMOZ, Yahoo, MSN and Google do…. they maintain their large information bases by hunting for content. Webmasters can speed up the process by submitting their URL directly to iWon or other similar SE, and they will all be sharing in no time.
Something I rarely see mentioned – getting included to these smaller SEs by way of free URL submission establishes in-coming links for the larger SEs to pick up on. Paid advertising or mass link exchanges is such a waste of time and $ which could be better used by slowly and methodically hand-submitting URLs.
Hope I explained this clearly rather than add more confusion. :satisfied And congratulations on being all over the web!
…Andrea
February 15, 2006 at 3:07 pm #683618Anonymous
InactiveYou know this makes sense. My website was launced in June 2005 as a intro page. I knew nothing about seo or website design. I mostly relied on some old school techniques and began to learn. My sources for learnning were directly from search engines. Every term I didn’t know I looked up and made sure I understood it completely.
At heart I am a programmer, seo was quite foreign to me. But after some hard studying I speculated that under pressure the search engine in question would have no alternative but to include your site, if it ranks high.
I did realize the importance of smaller engines and did submitt to several free ones. My site is constantly updated I write all my own content, best to my ability.
I grabbed a PR4 in less than four months and my traffic went nuts. What you are saying does make sense as well. I tried some tricks, but now I am left with not knowing what exactly I did to acheive this? I do have some useful answers but am no expert on the subject.
I am running a scan right now for five key words I already 35 page adds Ask Jeeves has indexed my keyword “microgaming bonuses” on page 3 . I think I am on to something but not sure what. My link exchanges or crosslinking stands at about 25.
Lucky I quess, CAP also played a big role I learnt a huge amount of info here from everybody good or bad. My loyalty will always be with CAP. greek39
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