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Every now & then I get a bug up my butt and add about 4 to 6 new sites all at once. Of those, I could expect to see good profit from one, decent profit from 2, and the rest most likely dogs.
I do feel portals should offer variety of software, bonuses, and styles. Otherwise you’re limiting your profit potential.
JMHO:)
Maybe. Maybe not.
I offer a lot of choices – lots of them. But I also push places I trust a whole lot harder.
I don’t like putting all my eggs in one basket.
This does not endear me to a lot of programs, since my income tends to be scattered all over the place, and most places don’t get a whole lot of traffic.
I do have some programs I push especially – at this time and for some time now it is Focal Click.
When you scatter your income you become more independent – I don’t depend on any one program. If I think I am being mistreated, I have no problem dropping anyone.
As a newbie, if you offer too many choices I think you have more trouble getting to know the managers because you are not performing for them.
Also, if you build up one program, you end up with higher comission percentages and perks.
I have tossed this one around for some time, and am working on a site I will run the opposite way – I will accept only eight casinos.
I’ll see what gives. I think with the smaller number I will be able to use PPC traffic a lot more efficiently.
GamesandCasino is branded and gets a lot of traffic from bookmarks and name recognition, as in people type it in their browser. PPC traffic doesn’t make a lot of sense on that site unless I point it to a specific spot.
Dont put all your eggs in one basket over relying on less then five major partners can be a VERY big mistake if one or more suddely downturn. I learned this one the hard way….
Rotten eggs are NOT better then no eggs in the basket Be selective when choosing partners and do your best to ensure the ones you do promote will pay your players and YOU in a timely fashion. CAP and othe webmaster geared forums are an excellent source of information. If the MAJORITY of people complain about a program thats a good indicator that it’s one YOU might want to avoid also. Keep in mind that even the WORST programs will selectively pay one or two vocal webmasters to maintin an ILLUSION of success. So look for a SOLID reputation with MOST webmasters.
Hi,
well here are the four programs/casinos to which I will be increasing traffic over the next few months.
Unless any one takes a major setback without recovering the following month; this will be at least a 4 month deal.
Wagershare– looking to increase to spin palace (as it is currently the only one doing well, but very well for me) about 50%
Casino Rewards .– will be attempting to increase traffic by 50% at least to Zodiac (my best of the lot) , 25% to GT and BJB, and possibly Yukon depending on their performance in next month.
.SunVegas and PiggsPeak will get honorable mention and increase of about 25%
SlotLand- Yep. They’ve made me nearly as much and sometimes more – with less traffic: as Micro’s like Vegas Partners, referback, fortune, money mechanic and of course, the known unprofitables such as golden star and casino profit share. *the latters are almost completely gone from my sites; I’m like Bada, I delete as I see them.
:bigsmile:I will report back on these programs on whether the increase of traffic is showing a direct relationship to end month profits.
I hope others will consider doing the same. It can only benefit us to know these things
Richwebmaster
BetMax
casinolasvegas
spinpalace
Adriches
casinoblasterGood for me! :bigsmile:
Very solid………but this is for my website.
They might not work for your websites.Right now I’m very pleased with PartyPoker, CasinoBlasters and CasinoRewards.
Hi,
thanks for your replies.
What I’m hoping to accomplish here is that it seems that some programs are not really increasing profits in direct relationship to the amount of traffic sent + amount of players accumulated in your account = end result.
It seems like with some places if I were to send say,.. 1000 hits a month and was making $1000 a month; that 6 months later if I haven’t increased the amount of traffic that my profit average per month is the same.
That shouldn’t be. There are lots of people that play at casinos for years. Sheer numbers demand that a person should see an increase in average monthly profit.
If you increase traffic by 50%; you should see a profit increase accordingly,…. but also since time is passing and you are adding to your player base; that your profits should increase also from benefit of the players that do stay on.
If you are a gambler, are you still playing at a casino signed over a year ago? If not: Stay in touch with a few of your players; or ask friends that gamble online. I think you will be surprised to find that a good portion of them are still playing at casinos they signed up at over a year ago.
So what would be nice; is if anybody else has a plan of action with a certain sponsor; if they were to announce it here so we can all watch and see what the results over a long time period; I’m thinking 4 to 6 months; and then a year ….
or even if you are just planning on sending the same amount of traffic to a sponsor; let us know which ones are your mainstays; and lets see what happens in 6 months.
Has your income stayed around the same?
Or have you enjoyed an increase in profit that reflects the program in question is doing a good job of player retention/is not stealing your players away after a few month’s of allowing you to see the profit.
There are just too many incidents where I seem to reach a level of income and thats it.
it almost looks as if a program is paying what they think I should get each month; and not what I actually earned; for reasons mentioned above.
I don’t want to send 100 players to some place where income is stagnant when I could have sent those 100 some other place which will allow me to grow.
and this should be an ongoing thing rather than be retro because if a casino/program has been giving in to temptation and shaving players; they now have the chance to redeem themselves in the eyes of the people that make them money.
what a win-win-win situation. :bigsmile:
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I would have to answer this as it depends on the group of casinos you are dealing with. Some casinos within groups just do not perform on everyone’s sites. So for me it is better to promote the casinos within a group who perform and dump or give limited exposure to the casinos within the group that are non performing up to a acceptable standard.
Next it is how long program can keep the players sent. So knowing you are sending players to a group, that goes above normal to ensure the players are happy and staying loyal to there casinos.
If a group cross markets and gives the affiliate the players, then I’ll push them even harder. The groups that are cross marketing and not giving credit to affiliates are loosing position. I guess the answer is to find out which groups cross market and do not give affiliates credit. ( which I am pretty sure on who doing this right now )
My experience good programs
Fortune ( cross markets and give affiliates credit. with excellent player retention )
Casino Coins ( good player retention, however lack of new player conversations )
Vegas Affiliates ( showing great improvements )
Wager Profits ( decent for a small group )
Casino Blasters ( excellent player conversations )
Referback ( only part of the group performs )
Casino Rewards ( no real growth, only part of the group performs )
Brightshare ( Ok profits but no real growth )
Palace of Chance ( steady decent earnings for single casino )
Casino Pays ( decent player retention, lack of conversations)We work hard to get players for casinos. If casino groups can not keep these players then we are wasting time, money and effort sending players there way. Most famous comment from casinos is “send us more players”, why send more players to a casino group that is not holding on to the players you have already sent? A good performing group does get more players sent there way, since you can see they are holding on to them. There is good groups out there, which do not perform on everyone’s sites. Finding the casinos that work on your own site is the only way to market.
Excellent post, Krystall!!! :bigsmile:
I would like to list my best performing long term.
1. Gambling Federation
2. RichWebMaster
3. ReferbackI also would like to give a thumbs up to the affiliate managers at referback who are always personal and helpful.
The way I measure whether or not my income is growing with a certain program is whether or not the amount of money I’m making per click is increasing.
If my players are sticking around and playing, then the money I make per click should go up correspondingly barring some unforeseen catastrophic player win.
That seems like the easiest formula to me anyway.
I’d like to point out that I’m very pleased right now with CasinoRewards and CasinoCoins, in addition to CasinoBlasters and PartyPoker.
And for some reason, I’ve never been able to make a dime with Slotland. Don’t know why–but they just haven’t worked out well for me. And I’ve never heard anything but good things from everyone else about them too.
Hi,
thanks Randy.For years I had same problem with Slotland. And of course; when they didn’t make any money for me I didn’t increase their exposure.
But then I started a slots site. and I changed my angle. I started promoting them as dinasours that have stayed around because of their fantastic payouts.
things started turning around and now like I said; they are actually making me more than many other casinos which had enjoyed better positioning.
And if you can make any money with them; they are the best about paying. 1st payment every month is from Slotland.
Cheers
S.
