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  • #834228
    gokken
    Member

    @iLoveDaCake 252945 wrote:

    ….is how can you pull my personal information and password from Facebook on your page when I haven’t even allowed your app to do so?

    Is this my actual Facebook password or is it a Dark Pattern method of directing users to submit their actual password as ‘confirmation’ because they think you do actually have their password already?

    If I have allowed it because I clicked on the link in your CAP signature, then it was done without my knowledge and should be removed.

    I really don’t like this and it would put me off ever joining or registering through your links as a user.

    Otherwise I quite like your site.

    I’m lost, think your posting to the wrong thread, mate!

    #834229

    @AussieDave 252950 wrote:

    I’m lost, think your posting to the wrong thread, mate!

    Heh heh, sorry…I go off on a tangent sometimes….:

    If you click on the Slots4Play link in his signature signature (below), you’ll see what I mean about the Facebook plug in on his page:

    https://www.slots4play.com/app/slots-on-facebook.php

    #834233
    Almanator
    Member

    GPWA long ago lost their value. They are sell outs who only look out for their interests and not those they claim to protect. Coffman and the lot are a joke. Good for you calling them out on it but as usual Coffman and his cronies will say nothing as they simply do not want to admit the truth.

    #834234
    jackcksn
    Member

    Hello,

    maby some of you know the Ibexnetwork story. It’s a webmaster issue, a spam issue, and after i found out, that all threads with the truth was secretly removed from the Google index because of manipulating the robots.txt (gpwa.org/robots.txt) i am very disappointed. One victim hast lost over 2000 Euros! And it was a spam issue too. Over weeks they forced me to give out privacy data! I didn’t because i am not stupid.

    This kind of censorship have really hurt me, because Google is the biggest information source of the world and there is no doubt, that Ibexnetwork asked for a way to became the Google serps “clean” again because the truth (GPWA thread) was listed on top positions.

    It’s running a big campaign (poll etc.) because i made public this secretly protecting of bad guys.

    A campaign to get a confirmation in handsight…

    As is said: I am really very, very disappointed, and i have a good reason to feel in this way, because my biggest hope, a special moderator, choosed to protect the censorship and not the simple truth behind the fact, WHY the robots.txt was manipulated. If anybody is working for a forum, then writing no word is a better way to hold the balance between the truth and proceting the forum. Scaring away members is the other result.

    But this is a another story.



    Today the topic is BestPay Partners!

    I was wondering about this Skype protocol:

    stern.jpg

    In this Skype protocol BestPay Partners are marked 20:16 with “Switzerland”.

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    Everybody can see that BestPay Partners are coming from Israel.

    Quote:
    E-mail: [email protected]
    MSN: [email protected]
    Skype: john.stern4
    Mobile: +972 54 4491 308

    Source: bestpaypartners.com/deutsch/kontakt

    The international country code for Swiss phone numbers is 41.

    And they are hiding the company behind a Swiss phone number.

    Quote:
    Headquarters
    Tel Aviv, Tel-Aviv 33333
    Israel

    Phone: +41 22 508 7041
    Website: http://www.bestpaypartners.com
    Email: [email protected]

    Souce: http://www.igamingaffiliateprograms.com/affiliate-program/bestpay-partners/

    The problem: This phone number is an offshore number which is marked as a fraud number.
    Criminals have made dirty deals with exactly this phone number:

    Quote:
    Profit Club Investments Financial Authorities Warnings & Registrations:

    Warning ATVP Slovenia

    P U B L I C W A R N I N G

    against company Profit Club Investments

    Slovene Securities Market Agency is warning investors about activities of the company Profit Club S.A., Panama, which is operating through its internet site URL: http://profitclubgroup.com/.

    Company Profit Club S.A., Panama (hereinafter Profit Club Investments) has not obtained
    the Agency´s authorization according to Market in Financial Instruments Act (official Gazette of the Republic of Slovenia 67/07, 100/07, 69/08, 40/09 and 88/10) or any other securities law to carry out services in the financial instruments field in Slovenia and by the date of this warning the Agency has not received any documentation proving that the authorization is sought in order to acquire that authorization. Company Profit Club Investments is not authorized under the MiFID directive to provide direct investment services and deals related to financial instruments on the territory of the Republic of Slovenia.

    Profit Club Investments Offices:
    Head Office:
    Av. de Frontenex 6
    CH-1207 Geneva
    Switzerland
    Phone: +41 22 508 7033
    Fax: +41 22 508 7041

    Source: http://www.boiler-rooms.org/profit-club-investments/

    One more Example: http://www.boiler-rooms.org/rooney-gallagher-private-equity-partners-llc/

    It’s really stupid to use an offshore phone number that criminals have used in the past.
    It’s unprofessional and not inspiring confidence.
    It’s not a good way to hide the own company behind offshore phone numbers or maildrop services.

    The street adress behind this phone number is well known: http://yellow.local.ch/de/q/6, avenue de frontenex?page=2&rid=S1gi

    Leopold

    #834255
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Sorry I was out of town over the weekend..

    The rivals I deal with are as someone already mentioned was Deckmedia, then there is a couple more that are about to drop
    off my list.. Fast Track Affs & Vegas2web( they are being removed in a week if they don’t straighten up!!)

    I agree I hate to promote rival period but US players are going to play so I feel like I need to pick & choose who is the worst of all evils here…. I hate giving more money to the greedy lil silver spooned Canadian thief’s( cannot tell you how much I was screwed out of with 400 affiliates!) who stole all affiliate earnings in the past, untagged players etc but again I want casino gamblers in a semi safe gambling environment if they are determined on playing Rival.

    #834256
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    i made my re-search

    You would have to go back to when the affiliate program was named something different (Before AKA John Stern) also the casinos were called something other then what they are now as well. The owner I am assuming wanted to move away from all the bad & negative press with total name changes.. Of course Rival (Bonnie Chance) being shady as Puck allowed this white label owner to change all brand names…..

    #834283
    everything
    Member

    @Arjun 252856 wrote:

    Tehsik –

    First off, let’s get the facts straight on this issue. I’m not taking any sides, but there is some missing information.

    1) You were paid a “fee” upfront, in which you were expected to deliver results to the program
    2) The expected results were not delivered to the program, OR, were not tracked properly, and they asked for a refund
    3) You have refused to give them a refund, because you did spend traffic/time/money resources to generated traffic, that may or may not have been tracked

    Questions:

    1) Were the expected results established upfront? For example, did you determine up front how many players were expected to be delivered and/or from what markets? If so, it would help to post some proof of that.
    2) Do you have any agreement/contract in place with any specific claus that covers payment policies?
    3) Can you or anyone else validate the tracking issues that are happening with BestPayPartners?
    4) Was this mobile or email traffic you were sending?

    It’s important that you brought this issue up, but let’s not turn things into a pissing match. It sounds like things got a bit personal in your communication, but I will tell you now that we don’t tolerate personal attacks against anyone on CAP, members or affiliate managers, no exceptions.

    Lets focus on getting some more information so affs can make their own judgement.

    @thesik – There are still open questions from Arjun/CAP, just in case you thought you answered.

    #834284
    gokken
    Member

    @BestPay-Partners 253022 wrote:

    @thesik – There are still open questions from Arjun/CAP, just in case you thought you answered.

    After your less than professional retorts and comments in this thread, I don’t think being a smart #ss will improve your rep here much.

    Some food for thought…pouring gasoline onto a fire can see you engulfed into too.

    #834285
    everything
    Member

    1.There was no policy with you.
    => As Affiliate of our Affiliate program you not just got the right to take pre-payments but also got obligations, which are clearly stated in our terms and conditions: BestPay Partners | Exclusive Affiliate Program

    2.Your stats ARE NOT WORKING!
    => Our stats are working great
    => Here are your total stats during 5 months campaign time we gave to you
    => You brought in during 5 months: 13 fun players and not one single real player!

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    3.You are talking rubbish, I said i will put you up on my site, this does not mean PUSHING YOU! I used my resources and haven’t seen PROPER STATS.
    => Its ok if you got no traffic, can happen, but my/our point is here that you cannot take pre payment if you are not sure you cannot deliver.

    4. Your Room compared to other Rival Casino its from Hell to Heaven
    => I respect your personal/private opinion here, still i do not understand it, since you received from us the 400$ pre payment!

    5. Mobile traffic Is new and YES I DO HAVE IT – BUT NEVER SENT IT TO YOU. NEVER INTENDED and NEVER WILL DO IT, …
    => Whatever it was, as the above stats of you pretty clear show, it was nothing that our support or retention team could ever get a chance to work on, since there was not a single Real Player coming from your end during 5 months time.

    6. I Cannot validate – IT’S not my system it’s yours … BUT I CAN COMPARE – so it’s the same thing
    => I am happy for you, if your traffic works for other operators.
    => My intention here is to make clear that no operator has to accept this kind of behavior of an Affiliate, especially not, if the affiliate is threatening with personal threats against employees and established brands (as the below skype conversation with you shows).

    #834286
    gokken
    Member

    @ BestPay Partners, posting an affiliate’s full name to a public forum ain’t cool. Regardless of what’s going on, you’ve just systematically tarnished your Brand even further, by doing this.

    Doing a CPA with an affiliate you don’t know or have no idea what their traffic is like, is risque at best.

    Both of you need to grow up and stop acting like children in a sand pit, fighting over a dump truck!

    #834289
    wally1000
    Member

    :guitar: @BestPay-Partners 253025 wrote:

    1.There was no policy with you.
    => As Affiliate of our Affiliate program you not just got the right to take pre-payments but also got obligations, which are clearly stated in our terms and conditions: BestPay Partners | Exclusive Affiliate Program

    2.Your stats ARE NOT WORKING!
    => Our stats are working great
    => Here are your total stats during 5 months campaign time we gave to you
    => You brought in during 5 months: 13 fun players and not one single real player!

    stats_slots4play_thesik.jpg
    3.You are talking rubbish, I said i will put you up on my site, this does not mean PUSHING YOU! I used my resources and haven’t seen PROPER STATS.
    => Its ok if you got no traffic, can happen, but my/our point is here that you cannot take pre payment if you are not sure you cannot deliver.

    4. Your Room compared to other Rival Casino its from Hell to Heaven
    => I respect your personal/private opinion here, still i do not understand it, since you received from us the 400$ pre payment!

    5. Mobile traffic Is new and YES I DO HAVE IT – BUT NEVER SENT IT TO YOU. NEVER INTENDED and NEVER WILL DO IT, …
    => Whatever it was, as the above stats of you pretty clear show, it was nothing that our support or retention team could ever get a chance to work on, since there was not a single Real Player coming from your end during 5 months time.

    6. I Cannot validate – IT’S not my system it’s yours … BUT I CAN COMPARE – so it’s the same thing
    => I am happy for you, if your traffic works for other operators.
    => My intention here is to make clear that no operator has to accept this kind of behavior of an Affiliate, especially not, if the affiliate is threatening with personal threats against employees and established brands (as the below skype conversation with you shows).

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    thank you for posting the screenshot, so this shows how the campaign didn’t worked….
    so when i made the test send they got that and after i started to send mass mailers … i got nothing .. not even clicks.. this shows me and people that there is something WRONG with your stats.

    What i want to mention again is that – YOUR STATS ARE CRAP – NOT WORKING AND MANIPULATED! – why a room keeps asking send more mailers ? when i see no results, that something is wrong and is not working why?
    Perhaps i should send mailers to all the mailers I have for the people too see , and oh yes you will have a section on my site – and i will strongly point people on those pages as soon as i come back, oh and it will be social as well , lets see the Impact after that … lets wait 2 -3 months … and see … and yes i promised you a fight , nobody make threats on my address.

    Oh btw a good program does not keep saying we are a good program all the time as you are saying it on every single post, you are the worst program i met LOL. Your affiliate program is blacklisted on many other websites and I do not really understand why your affiliate program is still alive on this forum and GPWA. i cannot put links here to other casino affiliate programs but your ROOM stinks!
    Just google people – google and see how many complains this affiliate program has :).

    oh btw stop saying we are the best affiliate program on your next post…. thanks :))))

    #834290
    wally1000
    Member

    oh btw , what does that mean ” do you know who i am ” Mr John Stern , why don’t you explain that ? is that not a threat on my address ? when you said that u just made me go mad really!

    i don’t give a **** and as posted on the skype picture, it shows there that i do make threats as well, at least i admit it and not hiding it …

    you make me laugh :))))))

    #834292
    wally1000
    Member

    :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

    #834299
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Ok everyone please lets try to keep this professional if we can… I have removed the affiliates full name, Christian you know better!

    #834309
    Evelinessa
    Member

    I’ve been keeping a close eye on this thread, and it isn’t going anywhere. Tehsik, you’ve said your part and we haven’t intervened at all, and so has BestPay. At this point, nothing is going to get solved here, so this thread is getting closed.

    If you guys want to resolve this issue, take it offline and figure something out.

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