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[Anonymous]

Hi All,

This thread is continued from this post.

Just want to update you about my affiliate accounts.

1. Casinopays has offered me 1/4 of what I asked for.
2. The amount is non negotiable
3. I have decided to say no thanks

I really don’t think the offer is fair. If I accept it, lifetime revenue share is history. You can send players to the casinos for years, and suddenly the affiliate program has technical problems and all your players are lost.

upps…we are sorry…..But hey: take this non negotiable amount, and buy an ice-cream

No Thanks

I had 2 accounts. One of them was opened in 2002. The other was opened in 2004, I think……It’s funny that exactly these 2 accounts has been destroyed, when there are 2 years between the opening dates… ?

This email is also VERY funny:

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Hi Benjamin,
My name is xxxxx and I am your new account manager for http://www.casinopays.com. I have noticed a decrease in players coming from your sites in the past few months. Are you still involved in the industry? If not, please inform me otherwise we will close your account with CasinoPays.
However, if you are still involved let’s work together as I am sure we can make some good $$$!
Contact me ASAP.
Regards,

I am done with casinopays. I will never work with this affiliate program again. The casinos are blacklistet on my sites and I will warn my players about their business methods.

This is not only a question of payment and money, it’s a matter of principles, and I think it’s important to all affiliates.

[vladcizsol]

Are these two players still with the casino now that they have migrated to the new software platform?

Are the revenues due you from prior to the changeover (ie and outstanding commission balance)?

[Anonymous]

Professor wrote:

Are these two players still with the casino now that they have migrated to the new software platform?

Are the revenues due you from prior to the changeover (ie and outstanding commission balance)?

It’s not two players. It’s two affiliate accounts! with real and fun money players. I don’t know anything about the revenues, because I can’t login.

[vladcizsol]

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I don’t know anything about the revenues

Then how do you know how much to ask for? Why is their offer unacceptable?

I am trying to figure out how you arrived at a figure owed you if you dont know how many players transfered to the new platform or continued to play after that if they did.

Casinolisten I am trying to disc0ver the facts of whats transpired so that we can assist you. If we had some concrete numbers to work with we can approach Casinopays and try to help you find a resolution.

[Anonymous]

I have linked to the 3 prestigegaming casinos since 2002. I believe that I have sent min. 200 real money players PLUS a lot of fun players to these casinos. (casino players + poker players).

I have sent players to these casinos on a LIFETIME REVENUE SHARE DEAL, so when my 2 affiliate accounts suddenly disappears, I think a good compensation would be fair. It can’t be my problem that Casinopays has technical problems

casinopays claims they can’t see/find my accounts, but sometimes they can:

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I have taken a look at your accounts that you had and in combination of those accounts you brought approximately 60 players

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Our estimation with Prestige are more onto 100 players

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No negotiation because there is no proof, we don’t have any record, no fun players to work on as you say, no 100 players, no 200, nothing

:banger:

@Professor
What would you ask for, if 2 of your affiliate accounts was closed down because of technical problems ?

[vladcizsol]

Casinolisten do you want a fair resolution or are you merely seeking to let people know about the situation?

If you want assistance we will be happy to help, but in order to do that I have to understand what both parties think is fair. That’s why I am asking.

I can tell you from experience that when you try to move players from one software platform to another they are very resistive. Most depositing players tend to like a platform becuase it has their favorite games, when you try to move them they balk and locate another casino that has their old favorites.

This happened to me and I lost THOUSANDS of players when a casino group which was Microgaming based decided they wanted to develop a proprietary platform of their own. More the 90% of our existing deposting players left.
They simply didnt want to change games just because the casino decided to switch software.

Its not as simple as saying “I had 200 deposting players on platform A therefore I should have 200 depositing players on the platform. Pay me based on those figures”

[Anonymous]

Professor,

I have also sent casino and poker players to the “new” Playtech platform! My accounts was “destroyed” when PrestigeGaming changed affiliateprogram from Thepartnerpage.com to Casinopays.com, not from bossmedia to playtech.

A fair resolution ? I really don’t think Casinopays will pay me anything, so I don’t think that is possible.

and

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The amount is non negotiable

[vladcizsol]

You are not being paid for NEW PLAYERS you sent after the conversion?

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The amount is non negotiable

If you are unwilling to discuss a resolution and instead have decided to take the stance that it’s your number or nothing then most likely you will end up with nothing. Good luck.

I do think there is some way to come to a mutually agreeable outcome to this, and it probably lies somewhere between your number and theirs. Let us know if you would like to pursue that end.

[Anonymous]

You are not being paid for NEW PLAYERS you sent after the conversion?

No I am not being payed for anything. please understand this: When I try to login it says User not found My two affiliate accounts has been deleted.

It is not me who won’t negotiate. Casinopays has made an offer, and I can’t accept it. and they won’t negotiate.

I have sent you a PM!

[vladcizsol]

Ok now that I know a little more I will ask CasinoPays to work on a fair and reasoanble resolution and ensure you are credited with all new players sent since the transition to Playtech.

Were you supplied with Playtech trackers? Thats the first link in this puzzle that we need to investigate. If you were given Playtech accounts and trackers then why did they close them? They cant be saying that the transition caused the playtech backend to shut down the new accounts?

[Anonymous]

This is the affiliate links I used, after the migration to playtech:

farezone4 account: http://banner.prestigecasino.com/cgi-bin/redir.cgi?farezone4

pokerpenge account: http://banner.prestigecasino.com/cgi-bin/redir.cgi?pokerpenge
http://banner.prestige-poker.com/cgi-bin/redir.cgi?id=N&member=pokerpenge&profile=pokerpr

I don’t know why I can’t login..I would really like to know!

[vladcizsol]

Thanks Casinolisten.
I have asked our Certification Manager, Warren, to contact CasinoPays and ask that they respond to this thread and make a good faith effort to resolve this situation and to inform the community on the outcome.

Thanks for your patience. I am certain they will work things out. They have a good track record in the past for working with their affiliates on issues that have arisen.

CasinoPays please keep us posted on this.

[Anonymous]

Casinolisten, we have come to a resolution on this matter that is basically meeting you half way. Professor will contact you with the details shortly.

We’re all affiliates here working together for the same cause, so let’s handle this in a professional manner with them and not publicly hash it out any further.

[Anonymous]

Hi war,

Sounds good! I am waiting for Professor to contact me….

[Anonymous]

UPDATE…

I have reached an agreement with Casinopays, and they have payed me compensation for the affiliate accounts.

I now consider this case to be closed! Thanks to CasinoAffiliatePrograms for helping me with this!

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