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September 19, 2008 at 5:21 pm #779209
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InactiveNo rush, they will not do anything with this until the new Congress of 2009. Which is probably better anyway; New Congress, more favorable President. I like this law better then Barney’s last legalization resolution. This one truely is the unduing of UIGEA. It takes the teeth right from the financial processors. It will open the doorway for new processors to open up.
September 19, 2008 at 8:46 pm #779240Anonymous
Inactive@john1124 176865 wrote:
No rush, they will not do anything with this until the new Congress of 2009.
There is rumor that this bill will reach the house floor next week for a full vote, which would send it to the senate immediately. It may not pass the senate, or may get stalled in the senate, but there is a good chance it gets voted on next week in the House(although there is eqaul chance that it may not).
Not quite sure why our industry does not see this as an urgent matter. This ‘no rush’ attitude is exactly why we slowed down our fervor in defending this industry, and we are one of the only organizations who defend OUR industry (the online casino industry), not the poker industry.
September 19, 2008 at 11:04 pm #779252Anonymous
InactiveNot quite sure why our industry does not see this as an urgent matter. This ‘no rush’ attitude is exactly why we slowed down our fervor in defending this industry, and we are one of the only organizations who defend OUR industry (the online casino industry), not the poker industry.
Simple,
A. More pressing issues to be taken up
B. There is not enough time to throughly, argued and debated on.
C. Why pass legislation that will be just Veto’d by Bush? Just wait till after Jan and you will have a more favorable Executive Dept.D. Things are not as bad as they could be. The industry will recover slowly with or without legislation.
September 20, 2008 at 12:54 am #779254Anonymous
InactiveThere’s always more urgent things to do. Are you fighting for those issues? This is our industry, though. In our industry, there are no more urgent matters. There should not be a day that goes by that we are not organizing and fighting for it. The only reason any bill has even been heard so far is because of the industry speaking up loudly over the past two years. But yes, I understand, now is the time to shut up and sit back and wait. Things will take care of themselves next year. Point well taken.
September 20, 2008 at 11:24 am #779271Anonymous
InactiveDon’t get your hopes up I doubt it will pass even past Jan in its current form. Vegas will have a fit that Sports Gambling is not included. Allegedly, “Pro Sports” opted out, so they weren’t included. So now its legal to play poker and casino, but no wagering online? So will they ask the vegas casinos if they want to “Opt Out” of sports gambling as well? When does pro sport commissions have a say if a sport is in or out of anything? Does the MLB own Baseball in america? No.
Bill wont fly as it is. Too many Reps will not be happy with the inclusion / exclusion.
September 20, 2008 at 3:54 pm #779285Anonymous
InactiveRight on John, whatever happens happens. Glad to see such interest from other members.
September 23, 2008 at 9:49 pm #779637Anonymous
InactiveHi John,
In light of the Kentucky situation, do you still think we should sit back and wait?
Don’t call your congressmen people. Just sit back and things will take care of themselves. Great attitude!
We have sent people to Washington to lobby on this industry’s behalf, and you guys can’t simply promote calling your congressmen?
At what point will a fire be lit under this industry’s ass?
There needs to be quite a few more voices than just J.Todd, CGW, and a few other industry advocates to help out our cause.
September 23, 2008 at 10:59 pm #779646Anonymous
InactiveIn light of the Kentucky situation, do you still think we should sit back and wait?
Don’t call your congressmen people. Just sit back and things will take care of themselves. Great attitude!
We have sent people to Washington to lobby on this industry’s behalf, and you guys can’t simply promote calling your congressmen?
Call your Congressman – Goes right to a secretary if your lucky who tosses the phone message right in the trash.
Email you congressman – Goes right in the Trash.
It can’t hurt, but probably won’t do any good. Right now sit back and wait till after the election. Wait and see what the current Casinos, Pokerrooms, and Books do about the Kentucky scandle. Most of them its their fault for having the DNS here in America anyway. Especially, after Bodog had the same problems.
Sit back and wait, see what happens. McCain is losing, Obama and the Democrates should relax some of the pressure the DOJ has put on processors. I honestly feel even if UGIEA was not passed online gambling would still be slow in todays economy. Even vegas is feeling the pinch in todays uncertain times.
September 23, 2008 at 11:14 pm #779653Anonymous
InactiveJohn,
So, basically what you are saying is the American people have no voice?
If that is true and you live in America, I would suggest to move immediately. Your opinions on this matter are truly scary and represent everything that is wrong with American culture and politics. That is, the people don’t care, they feel they have no voice, so they let their government dictate to them what should and shouldn’t be done.
I am truly amazed again and again at Americans’ apathy for such situations. So do nothing, just wait, then complain and whine when things like the UIGEA get passed, and when things like the Kentucky seizures occur.
It’s no wonder the American economy and culture is in the shitter.
September 23, 2008 at 11:39 pm #779656Anonymous
InactiveYou know… we run other news related websites and something similar happened many years ago. We encouraged all our visitors to call their congress person to demand answers to their questions and concerns about starting the Iraq war. We urged them to urge their congressman not to just go along with the Bush administration. The people responded by saying, eh, there’s nothing we can do. So they didn’t call or write or voice their concerns.
The media did the same thing, they were told not to ask questions and they didn’t. And look where that has led us.
Seriously, I want to know, at what point are the people supposed to express their concerns to the people who are supposed to be representing them? And at what point will it be too late?
September 24, 2008 at 3:50 am #779685Anonymous
InactiveI don’t think John lives in the U.S. :lookaroun
September 24, 2008 at 5:20 am #779692Anonymous
InactiveIt’s like this… The US gov is supposed to be “by the people for the people”.
But in reality it isn’t that way at all.
And there’s nothing people can do about it except hope a person like Obama gets elected who might have enough power as president to stick it to the special interest groups whom for too long have been getting everything their way when in fact things are supposed to go the way of the majority of the people.
Failing to represent the majority of the people is the biggest scam going of them all :flush::flush::flush::flush::flush::flush::
2000 flushes I say! Or whatever that product is called.
Let’s flush em’ all down the toilet without even bothering to wipe!
September 24, 2008 at 5:25 am #779694Anonymous
InactiveExcept they are representing the people, the ones who are making the most noise. Who makes the most noise? religious extremists. They talk loudly and they get their people out to vote, so of course the government does what they want, they have to in order to get reelected. They may be the minority, but they are much more politically active, so to the politicians, they seem like the majority, and the fact that those who cater to religious conservatives keep getting voted into office proves they should be catering to them.
Curiosity may have killed the cat, but apathy is going to kill the Americans.
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