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Thank you Itay, some good advice for all here.
Hi guys, sorry to be a balloon burster here but there is no way to stop black hat and its practitioners.
All you can do is build a resource of ways of reporting them (primarily to Google) and taking actions.
I think Itay acknowledges that.
There are three ways to go after them:
Report to the search engines
Report to the site’s host
Report to the affiliate programs.
And there some ways to cover your ass, which are mentioned above.
I would like to know b4’s policy regarding blackhat sites. Will b4 remove owners of blackhat sites from their affiliate status? Will they refuse to pay them? If we find a blackhat site pushing b4, and report it, what will b4 do?
Since B4 effectively acts as a filter and the programs can’t see the actual referrer site anymore, the reports to affiliate programs, that have generally been most effective by cutting off the revenue for the blackhatter, are not possible anymore.
This situation may encourage blackhatters to enroll at b4 and do their work under the cover of b4.
I guess this is something to ask in the B4Playing forum to find out about the company policy and how this issue is being seen.
Itay
That is exactly my worry. BH webmasters have been using CPA for years and this is the perfect guise to hide their interaction with affiliate programs and avoid T&C issues with spamming.
I see this as a possible widespread abuse and a slap in the face to honest affiliates.
well ill have to say I will use it to play at casinos, ill deposit and get a cpa weather I win or not
and I dont have to worry about the casino knowing its all ME!WOo I found somthing useful in this
and I can track all my casino signups:santa2:
I must say I am a bit surprised. I took the time writing some long, detailed post (haven’t seen so many like that here) that was sincerely aimed at newbies. I do believe I have mentioned some good tips that any new webmaster can use. The post was not aimed at old timers (and more experienced affiliates then me). I believe that all of us should be positive here. What value do we add here if we are all suspicious and double checking the hidden intention of others. I thought some newbies will come up with more questions and request for clarifications. After all, more than 500 have already watched this thread. As per B4Playing see my post at B4Playing forum. Allfreechip, seems that you have registered to our affiliation program. Welcome on board.
@itay 134831 wrote:
I must say I am a bit surprised. I took the time writing some long, detailed post (haven’t seen so many like that here) that was sincerely aimed at newbies. I do believe I have mentioned some good tips that any new webmaster can use. The post was not aimed at old timers (and more experienced affiliates then me). I believe that all of us should be positive here. What value do we add here if we are all suspicious and double checking the hidden intention of others. I thought some newbies will come up with more questions and request for clarifications. After all, more than 500 have already watched this thread. As per B4Playing see my post at B4Playing forum. Allfreechip, seems that you have registered to our affiliation program. Welcome on board.
I think that we are mainly suspicious because of your past, Itay…. and your self-pronounced BH experience along with being a founder of a BH organization. Without that – I doubt you would have gotten all this ‘suspicion’.
I mean – you have to expect this, right?
Hmmmm,
Went back and read my CV. Nothing mentioned about BH. Was trying to find a BH organization I founded and could not find either. Yes, I attended a CAC BH, WH session and represented the WH camp.
let it state it very clearly and hopefully get it off: I never used BH techniques, I am against it and a great believer that dedicated, smart work can get you better resuts and surely help you sleep very well.
Hope I am clear!
Itay
Am I confused or something?
I thought you wrote:Itay wrote:Hey Guys,Itay Paz here, I am in the industry for the last 5.5 years and since day 1 I was mistaken to be Itay from C,Pay. Well, I am Israeli but I am not him. I was a webmaster for the last 5 years and now I am working on a new innovative affiliation company.
My expertise is SEO (both white and black). I am one of the 2 founders of WIDS (Webmasters In the Dead Sea), a BH SEO exclusive gathering (which we are planning to do it again in the next few months).
I invite you guys to talk to me at the CAC, I will be there from the 2nd until the 6th.
Itay
This from: http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showpost.php?p=121201&postcount=6
@itay 134837 wrote:
Hmmmm,
Went back and read my CV. Nothing mentioned about BH. Was trying to find a BH organization I founded and could not find either. Yes, I attended a CAC BH, WH session and represented the WH camp.
let it state it very clearly and hopefully get it off: I never used BH techniques, I am against it and a great believer that dedicated, smart work can get you better resuts and surely help you sleep very well.
Hope I am clear!
Itay
I’ll help you remember.
http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showpost.php?p=121201&postcount=6
hey Guys,
Itay Paz here, I am in the industry for the last 5.5 years and since day 1 I was mistaken to be Itay from C,Pay. Well, I am Israeli but I am not him. I was a webmaster for the last 5 years and now I am working on a new innovative affiliation company.
My expertise is SEO (both white and black). I am one of the 2 founders of WIDS (Webmasters In the Dead Sea), a BH SEO exclusive gathering (which we are planning to do it again in the next few months).
Full thread: http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?t=21804&page=3
Looks like kw and I posted at the same time.
Guys, I know many people who know how to open a safe… does it mean they are all criminals… If Marc at CAC brough an SEO panel – does that mean he wants to learn how to do black…be realistic guys…I am using the info to protect myself and I tired of this.
So please don’t ever ask my advice on BH… only white :wavey:
Itay
BTW – tomorrow is the big day – we are launching tomorrow… so to the ones who still can say a few good words, I hope you can say good luck!
I am leaving this post to you and going to work on more important things :hattip:
I’m afraid but your logic is not very compelling. If you were only interested in the “safe closing” and not the “safe opening” would you go on to found a “safe opening/blackhat conference”?
@itay 134831 wrote:
I must say I am a bit surprised. I took the time writing some long, detailed post (haven’t seen so many like that here) that was sincerely aimed at newbies. I do believe I have mentioned some good tips that any new webmaster can use. The post was not aimed at old timers (and more experienced affiliates then me). I believe that all of us should be positive here. What value do we add here if we are all suspicious and double checking the hidden intention of others. I thought some newbies will come up with more questions and request for clarifications. After all, more than 500 have already watched this thread. As per B4Playing see my post at B4Playing forum. Allfreechip, seems that you have registered to our affiliation program. Welcome on board.
Wasnt me yet
