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  • #745431
    Anonymous
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    “How blackhatters can affect your ranking and SERPS, how to detect it and what to do about it.”

    Black hat SEO really is a plague for the rest of us when we’re trying to raise or maintain SERPS using white hat techniques. The search engines work very hard to create algorithms that will be able to detect the sites that are trying to “fool them” into giving great ranks, but they can’t yet be 100% successful.

    Google’s policies ban black hatters and will act if sites using those techniques are reported. However, no matter how good they are, it seems that there will always be some black hatters who will remain one step ahead in the game.

    This means that for the rest of us, we are often doing everything legitimately and watching our ranks fall because of black hatters.

    Because of some of these darker techniques, you should not only watch to make sure that your rank isn’t falling, but you should also ensure that you haven’t had your site dropped altogether. There are many techniques that black hatters will use to simply eliminate the competition – you – completely.

    Therefore, you need to regularly monitor whether your site has withstood the battles on Google, or whether they’ve gotten to you.

    Make sure to stay calm at all times, even if you suspect that you may have been dropped from Google. This kind of thing is common and it’s entirely fixable. Once you take the right steps, you’ll be right back there in the SERPS before you know it.

    Here are your steps:

    Check out your status using Google’s Webmaster Tools (available at http://www.google.com/webmasters). This is an important place to start your checking since Google uses this site to tell webmasters about any issues with their own sites. It’s not entirely obvious to use – you’ll need to know what you’re looking for.

    When you go to the “Site Status” wizard, what you want to see is two big green checkmarks beside your “Pages from your site are included in Google’s Index” and “Googlebot last successfully accessed your homepage on”.

    Remember, even if your site doesn’t have a green mark, it may not necessarily mean that black hatters got you. If the first green checkmark isn’t there, it could mean that your site was never indexed in the first place – not that it was necessarily banned. The second one means that something is giving the Google spider a hard time in trying to index your website. It’s either something you’ve done or something a black hat has done. These are both important to investigate.

    You may want to look over Google’s Webmaster Guidelines to make sure that you aren’t doing anything wrong. You may have inadvertently hurt Google’s feelings by doing something even minor on your website, and all it might take is a small tweak to remedy it.

    Be extremely careful in case you have duplicate content on your website. Did you use it legitimately? If you have duplicate content, be sure that you’ve got permission from the owner and that it’s well documented on your site. If the duplicate content is your own and you’re using it multiple times on your website, you may need to simply reword some text so that you can show Google you’re not simply spamming.

    You are going to need to be a bit patient here. If your ranks have dropped, but you’re still listed, then give it a minimum of four days to see if your scores bump back up again. If after that time, you’re still way down there, find out what the problem is, fix it, and have your site re-indexed.

    If someone has used black hat on you, it’s time to contact Google and let them know that you’re a white hatter, and that your site isn’t doing what they think it is. You should be able to resolve that situation together.

    Hope you enjoy reading it all.

    Itay

    #745439
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thank you Itay, some good advice for all here.

    #745466
    PatrickM
    Member

    Hi guys, sorry to be a balloon burster here but there is no way to stop black hat and its practitioners.

    All you can do is build a resource of ways of reporting them (primarily to Google) and taking actions.

    #745473
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I think Itay acknowledges that.

    There are three ways to go after them:

    Report to the search engines

    Report to the site’s host

    Report to the affiliate programs.

    And there some ways to cover your ass, which are mentioned above.

    I would like to know b4’s policy regarding blackhat sites. Will b4 remove owners of blackhat sites from their affiliate status? Will they refuse to pay them? If we find a blackhat site pushing b4, and report it, what will b4 do?

    Since B4 effectively acts as a filter and the programs can’t see the actual referrer site anymore, the reports to affiliate programs, that have generally been most effective by cutting off the revenue for the blackhatter, are not possible anymore.

    This situation may encourage blackhatters to enroll at b4 and do their work under the cover of b4.

    #745478
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I guess this is something to ask in the B4Playing forum to find out about the company policy and how this issue is being seen.

    Itay

    #745481
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    That is exactly my worry. BH webmasters have been using CPA for years and this is the perfect guise to hide their interaction with affiliate programs and avoid T&C issues with spamming.

    I see this as a possible widespread abuse and a slap in the face to honest affiliates.

    #745491
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    well ill have to say I will use it to play at casinos, ill deposit and get a cpa weather I win or not :) and I dont have to worry about the casino knowing its all ME!

    WOo I found somthing useful in this

    and I can track all my casino signups:santa2:

    #745518
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I must say I am a bit surprised. I took the time writing some long, detailed post (haven’t seen so many like that here) that was sincerely aimed at newbies. I do believe I have mentioned some good tips that any new webmaster can use. The post was not aimed at old timers (and more experienced affiliates then me). I believe that all of us should be positive here. What value do we add here if we are all suspicious and double checking the hidden intention of others. I thought some newbies will come up with more questions and request for clarifications. After all, more than 500 have already watched this thread. As per B4Playing see my post at B4Playing forum. Allfreechip, seems that you have registered to our affiliation program. Welcome on board.

    #745520
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @itay 134831 wrote:

    I must say I am a bit surprised. I took the time writing some long, detailed post (haven’t seen so many like that here) that was sincerely aimed at newbies. I do believe I have mentioned some good tips that any new webmaster can use. The post was not aimed at old timers (and more experienced affiliates then me). I believe that all of us should be positive here. What value do we add here if we are all suspicious and double checking the hidden intention of others. I thought some newbies will come up with more questions and request for clarifications. After all, more than 500 have already watched this thread. As per B4Playing see my post at B4Playing forum. Allfreechip, seems that you have registered to our affiliation program. Welcome on board.

    I think that we are mainly suspicious because of your past, Itay…. and your self-pronounced BH experience along with being a founder of a BH organization. Without that – I doubt you would have gotten all this ‘suspicion’.

    I mean – you have to expect this, right?

    #745521
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hmmmm,

    Went back and read my CV. Nothing mentioned about BH. Was trying to find a BH organization I founded and could not find either. Yes, I attended a CAC BH, WH session and represented the WH camp.

    let it state it very clearly and hopefully get it off: I never used BH techniques, I am against it and a great believer that dedicated, smart work can get you better resuts and surely help you sleep very well.

    Hope I am clear!

    Itay

    #745524
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Am I confused or something? :) I thought you wrote:

    Itay wrote:
    Hey Guys,

    Itay Paz here, I am in the industry for the last 5.5 years and since day 1 I was mistaken to be Itay from C,Pay. Well, I am Israeli but I am not him. I was a webmaster for the last 5 years and now I am working on a new innovative affiliation company.

    My expertise is SEO (both white and black). I am one of the 2 founders of WIDS (Webmasters In the Dead Sea), a BH SEO exclusive gathering (which we are planning to do it again in the next few months).

    I invite you guys to talk to me at the CAC, I will be there from the 2nd until the 6th.

    Itay

    This from: http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showpost.php?p=121201&postcount=6

    #745525
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @itay 134837 wrote:

    Hmmmm,

    Went back and read my CV. Nothing mentioned about BH. Was trying to find a BH organization I founded and could not find either. Yes, I attended a CAC BH, WH session and represented the WH camp.

    let it state it very clearly and hopefully get it off: I never used BH techniques, I am against it and a great believer that dedicated, smart work can get you better resuts and surely help you sleep very well.

    Hope I am clear!

    Itay

    I’ll help you remember.

    http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showpost.php?p=121201&postcount=6

    hey Guys,

    Itay Paz here, I am in the industry for the last 5.5 years and since day 1 I was mistaken to be Itay from C,Pay. Well, I am Israeli but I am not him. I was a webmaster for the last 5 years and now I am working on a new innovative affiliation company.

    My expertise is SEO (both white and black). I am one of the 2 founders of WIDS (Webmasters In the Dead Sea), a BH SEO exclusive gathering (which we are planning to do it again in the next few months).

    Full thread: http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?t=21804&page=3

    #745526
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Looks like kw and I posted at the same time. :D

    #745528
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Guys, I know many people who know how to open a safe… does it mean they are all criminals… If Marc at CAC brough an SEO panel – does that mean he wants to learn how to do black…be realistic guys…I am using the info to protect myself and I tired of this.

    So please don’t ever ask my advice on BH… only white :wavey:

    Itay

    BTW – tomorrow is the big day – we are launching tomorrow… so to the ones who still can say a few good words, I hope you can say good luck!

    I am leaving this post to you and going to work on more important things :hattip:

    #745533
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I’m afraid but your logic is not very compelling. If you were only interested in the “safe closing” and not the “safe opening” would you go on to found a “safe opening/blackhat conference”?

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