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September 11, 2005 at 9:16 pm #672741
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InactiveI’m actually surprised you are ranking that high already in google for such a competitive key phrase. Google is very tough to get ranked in for a new site due to their ageing filter. After you have been indexed by google for 6-8 months, you should naturally start moving up in the rankings once the filter is removed. However, you won’t get to the top results for that key phrase without doing a ton of links. At least that is my understanding.
Yahoo and MSN do consider backlinks as well, but their ranking algorithims are different than googles. You might want to check out seochat.com for more advice on all of this. Another goldmine of information.
As for the size of the site, I have been wondering this lately as well. We recently had 800+ pages indexed in google, but had found that many of our sub-pages weren’t linked properly for google’s spiders. We just completed an update, and I’m expecting to see about 2,600 pages indexed soon. The interesting thing is that google is currently updating their backlinks data and most of the new backlinks they are showing for us come from our own internal pages. Not sure what that means, or if we get any additional value from it, and I’ve heard that google’s backlink check isn’t very helpful since they only show a random slice of the information. Using Yahoo to check backlinks seems to be the standard.
The only think I know for sure (since it has been stated a million times on various forums) is that google loves content and the more of it you have, the more they like you.
September 12, 2005 at 2:31 am #672744Anonymous
InactiveI am completely astounded that you rank on Google for “online casino” as a new site. This is amazing to me because Google “sandboxes” sites for anywhere from several months on, especially for popular keyword phrases.
So I’m guessing that you must have bought a preexisting domain?
September 12, 2005 at 3:33 pm #672751Anonymous
InactiveThank you very much for your input. :bigsmile:
My bad, the search engine that I was ranking high in was MSN for the keyword “casino reviews”, which is still pretty competitive, but not as much as “online casinos”. I wasn’t listed anywhere in google for the competitive keywords, but I was found after about 10 pages after long less competitive keywords. Altho, I checked it this morning and I’m not on any of the top 25 pages in MSN anymore for competitive keywords.
September 16, 2005 at 3:35 pm #672901Anonymous
InactiveGoogle likes to see sites grow naturally. It likes to see steady and graduated growth of content and links.
Sites that raise too fast run the danger of falling just as quickly.
October 3, 2005 at 1:16 pm #673715Anonymous
InactiveGuess what :
I’m online for a month or so, and here are the keywords for which I received hits:Patsy Kensit,
top modelRelevant, very relevant…
October 3, 2005 at 7:09 pm #673723Anonymous
Inactivehklein wrote:Guess what :
I’m online for a month or so, and here are the keywords for which I received hits:Patsy Kensit,
top modelRelevant, very relevant…
Google doesn’t apply the aging filter (aka: sandbox) to sites other than .com. So, your site with .eu will rank immediately, but I think only in your geographic region.
October 3, 2005 at 7:54 pm #673726Anonymous
InactiveGoogle doesn’t apply the aging filter (aka: sandbox) to sites other than .com
Not true. I’ve had .co.uk sites sandboxed. Intuitively, does it make sense to only apply an ageing filter to certain domain extensions ?! Clearly not. The sandbox affects all new sites (or new links, depending on your viewpoint).
October 4, 2005 at 2:06 am #673746Anonymous
InactiveI’m not an expert at SEO just yet, I’m just presenting information I’ve found on SEO forums from people who seem to be very savvy in this area. From what I have read, Google is mainly concerned with commercial domains (.com), and don’t bother penalizing the other extensions. There are no known cases of .edu or .gov domains being sandboxed.
It does make sense to pick and choose domains if Google is concerned with stemming the tide of search engine spam and if they have deemed that the greatest portion of this spam comes from .com’s. Maybe they pick and choose some other domain extensions as well — .co.uk would probably be the next most popular commercial domain extension after .com.
The ageing filter appears to be a manual thing as many SEO people point out that your site will rank the first couple of weeks after it is indexed, then dissappear for 6-8 months no matter what you do. Add to that the evidence that sandboxed sites are released in groups, rather than one-at-a-time (if it was an automated process, they would likely be released based on a timestamp and appear to come out of the box one-at-a-time).
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