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Nicotine is easily the hardest to quit… I just went through the quitting…
I quit Alchohol 25 years ago, and although it was tough, it was no were near as hard as cigs! LOL
It sounds simplistic, and possibly foolish, but it really does come down to making a personal choice TO quit. You either choose to, or choose not to in the end, and the consequences of either choice are there for you to deal with.
Hi,
I reckon over eating is the hardest addiction to quit, smoking wasn’t too tricky and I hate loosing money far too much to ever become too addicted to gambling. As for Alcohol it’s against my deeply held beliefs to even try to curb it :cheers:
On a more serious note though I do feel sorry for any kind of addict as it does ruin lives but I think the important distinction here is that none of us actively target addicts or go after ‘innocent’ people to try and turn them into addicts. Most people are perfectly capable of becoming addicts by themselves and it’s unfortunately in their destiny to fulfil that prophecy. I do agree though that a link to Gamblers Anonymous is a good idea and I’ll get round to that after I finish my beer :shots:RGscott wrote:If you don’t want to ruin someones life, then you’re doing the wrong thing IMO. I don’t care what anyone says, this whole industry is based on people becoming addicted.I’ve been on all sides – as an addicted player, as an affiliate and as an operator – and I’ve seen it all.
Let’s face it, noone here would be making any money if people only played for “entertainment”.
Just a thought here, if any “news” media used RGscott’s comment “the whole industry is based on people becoming addicted” in a widely read publication it could be used as a weapon against online gaming as a whole. Does Senator Kyle read this thread? Let’s “think” about what we say when we post. I think we should delete this whole thread, we all know what we are doing to make our living, let’s just not invite our enemies to use us as their weapons to promote their viewpoint.
denpubl wrote:Just a thought here, if any “news” media used RGscott’s comment “the whole industry is based on people becoming addicted” in a widely read publication it could be used as a weapon against online gaming as a whole. Does Senator Kyle read this thread? Let’s “think” about what we say when we post. I think we should delete this whole thread, we all know what we are doing to make our living, let’s just not invite our enemies to use us as their weapons to promote their viewpoint.I disagree. The “morality groups” who fight gambling only have two real audiences anyway – themselves and those who need their vote. Others see them hindering freedom of speech and it’s largely why US law is in such a laughable state. The US already banned online gambling. There is no “enemy” anymore. Just “them” and “us”.
I think it’s great that even in our community there are devil’s advocates – its how it should be, here and in life in general – you need to see both sides. When it gets stupid is when someone with power decides that the opinions of a few should be forced on everyone “for their own good”. That’s when you throw “land of the free” out the window and swap the the “star spangled banner” for the red flag and sickle. A government who says to me “we don’t trust you to gamble your own money, but feel free to buy a gun” has got itself into such a mess that surely it can’t be taken too seriously anymore, can it?
One in a thousand people can’t control themselves, so stop everyone from doing it! Yeah right. Prohibition…that was a roaring success wasn’t it?
This thing is a bit on the silly side.
Every mom and pop corner store in the US would have to feel guilty for selling beer and cigarettes and candy and greasy foods and what not all. Not to mention lottery tickets.
Gambling is the least addictive of any of those.
A gambling addiction as with any true addiction is not curable. Some people can learn to manage the addiction and many can and do go decades without falling off the wagon. But there are many more that can not get a grip on the addiction with or without help. An achoholic for instance, may go years without a drink, but taking one drink will bring the addiction back in full force and it’s always harder to get a grip with each time you fall off the wagon. It’s the same with gambling, drugs, and any addiction. Call it a will power issue or a lack of strength of character or an illness or whatever. Either way, it’s something that can totally rule and ruin the lives of those who suffer from it. I’m not taking the high road here, I’m a casino affiliate and have been for years and will continue to do so. I’m also an addict. A addicted person is going to seek out his or her ‘vice’ no matter what. There is nothing to feel guilty about here by operating sites and making money off of gamblers whether they are problem gamblers or social gamblers. We do it to make money and we are good at it. If your site is not there to provide the information, there are thousands of others to choose from. :hattip:
For those of you replied back, I really respect some of the replies. I’m glad others feel the same way, and for others….I totally lost respect for them.
First of all, DO NOT…DO NOT compare gambling addiction with drug addiction. Gambling addiction is far more worse than drug addition or any other addition. My psychology professor and Robert Perkinson will swear by this. Do you guys remember what I said when I first started out? I would raise enough money to make a documentary about gambling. I have raised enough money already (believe it or not) so it’s time for me to say good bye. From staring out SharksEatFish.com I’ve learn so many things, search engine optimization, etc. I’ve purchased 7 more domains….(I dont want to share them because I dont want you guys to jump in on the keywords) I would probably finish them out, let them grow out of sandbox and just sell it.
Most importantly, from this whole affiliate business I’ve learned that I should definitely stay in school and get an engineering degree or some sort of degree so I could be more productive to this world. I am going to make honest money until the day I die and this is not an insult for those of affiliates who make $5k+ a month. I mean if you guys are making money and happy about it, then more power to you guys.
We now live in a society where kids dont play football anymore. Instead, they stay at their friends garage and play poker. The numbers of new poker players are growing and most of them are young adults. Young adults who should wanting to be doctors, scientist, etc. The baby boom generation is now gone and we are eventually going to face doctor shortages. I’m not saying poker is bad at all. It’s not….and you ar eright. If it’s for entertainment value, I dont see what the problem is. But it all starts out as entertainment and ends downhill. You see all the glory of WSOP winners on espn but what about those washed out players? Why dont they show their miserable life on TV?
If you buy a 1 dollar lotto ticket and that brings you happeniess or even hope then I think it’s worth buying it.
I dont see playing poker or casino games as hope. If the casino loses money then they would go out of business but their industry gets only bigger and bigger why? Because the players lose no matter what. Thats the odds and playing at online casinos??? the odds are even worse.
For those of you that are going to grind out signing up new players, getting their net losses, good luck but let me ask you ONE question. Would you want your son/daughter to play online casino?
Please try to justify your reasons with me, tell me why online casinos sooo goood. My documentary is already sponsored by my school and more and more people are supporting it. I wonder why. Oh yes, this thread is a bit on the silly side now. Let’s lock it.
Truly yours,
world “S” peace. S stands for sardonic.
Everyone is an individual. Not everyone who gambles will turn into a transfixed and souless zombie.
I have Gambled at land based casinos for over 24 years and regularly play at online casinos. (Once or twice a month). I view gambling as entertainment. I enjoy it. I budget what I can afford to lose and dont run to the ATM for more money when thats gone.
Is that true of everyone? No, its not. But for MILLIONS of people gambling is a form of recreation that they keep in perspective and dont allow to overtake their lives.
Would I let my kids play at a land based or online casino?
Yes. I have two adult daughters who do play with us when on vacation. They also have a drink from time to time and I would be really suprised if they hadnt at least tried Marijuana or some other recreational drugs during their tranisition to adult hood.
The key to anything, ANYTHING is moderation.
If you abuse Drugs, Gambling, Sex, Food, Nicotine, Masturbation, Television, Video Games or thousands of other things you will encounter during your life then problems WILL arise.
Professor wrote:If you abuse … Sex … Masturbation… then problems WILL arise.Nicely worded Prof
Exhaustion is a problem i could happily cope with being addicted too 
I see public service announcements steadily on television here that tell people with gambling addictions to come and get the free treatment they provide and how it is so much easier to deal with than any other addiction. That it can be fixed quickly and easily.
So what worldpeace is saying is totally contrary to what the government says.
Amen Professor,
The Professor is right on the money with all that he stated above. In the past as now I have thought about the same thing that worldpeace brought up in this thread. My conclusions are the same as the Professors though. People still need freedom of choice in their lives and yes some people will abuse themselfs unfornately. I am personally proud to be a part of this industry and I sleep very well at night.:cheers:
Dominique wrote:That it can be fixed quickly and easily.So what worldpeace is saying is totally contrary to what the government says.
No offense Dominique, but I believe these two sentences were worth quoting. Do you know ANY addiction firsthand, that can be fixed “quickly and easily”?
Plus since when do governments say the truth about social issues?
worldpeace wrote:Gambling addiction is far more worse than drug addition or any other addition.That seems a wee bit ignorant. If you’d like, I can grab some some statistics of people who die each year due to drugs and you get some on people who die each year due to gambling… I’m sure there are quite a few who die as a result of losing money while gambling, but if you honestly think that it’s more than meth abusers or crack addicts, or even smokers, you’ve got your facts all mixed up.
Am I the only one who got offended by this?
I’m not offended, but maybe he meant what what cagney12 said, which was:
Quote:I worked as an RN in a recovery center, we treated all sorts of addicts, and gambling addicts were the worst to cure.You could question her claimed credentials if you liked, but I think this thread has gone in a few different directions.
Some are talking about the severity of an addiction and how hard treatment might be, and some are talking about the potantial damage or consequences of particular addictions. Those are really two different topics, IMO.
JackTen wrote:No offense Dominique, but I believe these two sentences were worth quoting. Do you know ANY addiction firsthand, that can be fixed “quickly and easily”?Plus since when do governments say the truth about social issues?
Actually, I understand most of these programs are simple substitution programs and they stick. They find an activity the afflicted person enjoys and feels proud of and good about and simply substitute it for the gambling. It takes reinforcement and encouragement and supervision, but it is supposed to work easily, successfully and permanently in most people.
No 10 steps (or however many) or drugs to help wean and I hear practically no relapse.
There may be other types of programs that have different methods and rates of recovery, but the above is the one type I have seen documentaries about.
And, yes, people have lost their money due to gambling, but no one ever dies from it, like mwack said.
The neighborhood corner store kills people with alcohol and nicotine. Even caught before people are anywhere near death, these addictions are a lot harder to fix from what I have seen.
