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There is podcast with Sallie James, an analyst from the CATO Institute linked in the article we just published. Thought everyone would find it interesting…
I’m worried that nothing will come of all of this because of the current US government’s stance on security. I can totally understand their approach to national security but as far as I can see it, gambling or gaming online to them is seen as a possible security risk because of the unknown locations where the money from US Citizens is going.
I have this funny feeling that no matter what argument or case is raised by these countries, that it will be revoked, WTO or not, I think that their national security acts will supercede or circumvent WTO.
Obviously I do not want to see this but I just think it will happen.
@Carlo 128702 wrote:
I have this funny feeling that no matter what argument or case is raised by these countries, that it will be revoked, WTO or not, I think that their national security acts will supercede or circumvent WTO.
There has been talk about security issues and terrorist funding. I would think they would have been quick to use this in their favor to support the UIGEA if it was found. We havn’t seen any evidence of this. The main stance I have seen the US government rally for the UIGEA and the WTO is a moral issue (or the pretense of). I agree though that many things could supercede the WTO unfortunatly.
I say “Power to the People!” Let the US Citizens pay their taxes and play online poker, casino, etc. with their own money… Oops, then that means untaxed looses… Doh, flush that one :flush:
@antoine 128433 wrote:
There would be plenty of money to feed everyone in your country and in the world, and to provide free health care to everyone in your country, if the US didn’t spend over 50% of its budget on the military.
So very true.
The USA isn’t the only country who’s guilty of that though.
Great news to see Costa Rica, Japan and India all jumping on board with the EU and Antiqua. There are some real powerhouse countries involved now. Can only be a good thing.
Does anyone think that the USA are going to change the legislation or are these countries angling for something similar to World War style “reparations”?
I think it will be changed eventually. Before that happens though I think enforcement will slow down or cease, and I think some of the individual states will dip their toes into the water.
UIGEA leaves it to the individual states to regulate what happens on their soil. Doubtlessly some will eventually come forward and try to collect taxes through regulation.
That will pave the way to repeal alltogether.
Meanwhile, all the introduced bills and the WTO bring the issue out into the open and the ensuing debate is very beneficial.
There are lots of different things happening that will push this thing our way, and the more countries stand up to be counted in protest, the better. It all adds up to more pressure on the legislature.
The industry should start making offers to individual states. There are a few who have expressed interest in the past. That is an open and legal venue to pursue now. Once a couple of states fill their coffers, the house of cards will begin to fall.
@Dominique 128935 wrote:
There are lots of different things happening that will push this thing our way, and the more countries stand up to be counted in protest, the better. It all adds up to more pressure on the legislature.
Great post and I think the EU being a part of this would be a BIG addition.
Totally agree with dom… its just a time and support game now.
@Dominique 128935 wrote:
The industry should start making offers to individual states.
I’ll take Lindsay Lohan from whichever state has to deal with her.
@kar 128976 wrote:
Totally agree with dom… its just a time and support game now.
Yes, it was a good post by Dom. Are there any petitions out there that we could perhaps circulate on our websites? Maybe I’ll ask JT from APCW since I vaguely remember talking to him about it in the cab from the airport in Amsterdam.
@kar 128976 wrote:
I’ll take Lindsay Lohan from whichever state has to deal with her.
OK, then I’ll take Paris Hilton from California and I’ll lock her up in a secure, damp and dull Canadian jail cell :woohoo:
And don’t forget to throw away the key!:wink-wink
Personally,
I feel some of these nations are taking it a tad bit too far. Americans don’t like to be pushed around, and refuse to be. So now having all these nations with their hands out for free loot may backfire. For instance, India and Japan; they have no stake in the UIGEA but they see an opportunity to cash in and is looking for it. India espcially; here is a nation that has consistantly abused our technology hardware and software by blaintently disregarding copyrights. And now they feel compelled to suck some more $$ from us from an issue that has no bering on them? This may actually backfire for the WTO and Antigua if they are not careful.
I feel instead of makaing threats if they use the sentimate of the US population to their favor instead of trying to turn it away they would be more self-serving. The added pressure may help the pending case in NJ to temporary suspend the UIGEA, upon Constitutional Review (a case im still suspect of, they “Allegedly” filed on June 5th by the IMEGA , but I have yet to find any formal complaint online or otherwise). If Antigua keeps acting up making comments about following China and India in copying our software, technology etc. It wouldnt surprise me if the State Department issues a travel advisery or worse yet Travel Suspention for Antigua. Then they will be no better off then the DR, Haiti, or a few of the other poor Carribean nations. So they better be careful. At the end of the day the US has a right to protect itself and its citizens from what they feel is harmful. It’s an international right, under Geneva for any soverign nation. Is the UIGEA BS? Yes it is, but Technically our Government has some sort of say in internet gambing.
Best thing that can happen now is for the WTO and Antigua not make it “too personal” with Americans. Right now you have our sympathy, please don’t turn it to distainment or you will never see I-gambling back to the way it used to be.
I think the whole point of world trade is that it should be borderless. Also, since the USA, India, Japan (and other countries, including Antigua & Barbuda) are part of the WTO then they shouldn’t be allowed to build a wall around their country and prevent other members from benefiting from the global economy.
Problem is Carlo,
“global economy” or “Globalization” is not a favorable term here in America. It’s started with the Passage of NAFTA which sent 1000’s of jobs into Mexico at the expense of the citizen. At the same time our borders are nothing more then a leaking sap allowing 1000’s of illegals to come here and take from the American Social system, Take jobs etc. Our trade deficit with China is deplorable costing 1000’s of manufacturing jobs, H1B visas cost many americans high paying IT jobs going to citizens from other countries in the form of cheap labor. Globalization is a dirty word here in America. Especially, over the last 6-8 months when housing foreclosures are at an all time high. Many Americans will see the WTO efforts as just another example of less fortunte nations trying to suck as much free $$ from America as possible. That is a bad message to be sending. You may lose some people who are pro- Igambling, just for the spite of what they are trying to do.
