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nick777 wrote:I’ll never have to worry about you Aleph, you know what’s going on
Word!
Great, now freakin V-Bulletin is trying to dictate me, I must post at least 10 characters. pfffffffffffffff
aleph wrote:Marketing is the least of their concerns. Market control is their goal.The logistics required to extend their business online will be a joke to these
guys … financially and technically.
They have databases of their whales and can easily set them up
to play from home … add that to the established trust factor and
billions more will flow into their hands.
:bored:
Not only the whales . . they have THOUSANDS of names in their databases!Everyone who has ever been a guest at the hotel ..
whether they were a player or not . . :popcorn:Everyone who ever signed up for the slot players club . . :popcorn:
Everyone who ever filled out a coupon (as they were passing through)
for any sort of casino “freebie” or giveaway . . :popcorn:Everyone who ever played at any table game . . :popcorn:
If there is someone they don’t recognize, one of the floormen just happens to wander over and ask where they are from and have them fill out a card so he can buy them lunch . . :wink-wink . . as if they really care about buying your lunch!!
I will never forget a family with 2 children who had car trouble and were stranded in Las Vegas and were broke. Someone was wiring money for them to get the car fixed and get back home. In the meantime, they asked if the casino could give the children something to eat . . security politely escorted them out (since they obviously had no money to spend in the casino)
I have at least a hundred more stories like this one!!
LasVegasLady wrote:Not only the whales . . they have THOUSANDS of names in their databases!Everyone who has ever been a guest at the hotel ..
whether they were a player or not . . :popcorn:Everyone who ever signed up for the slot players club . . :popcorn:
Everyone who ever filled out a coupon (as they were passing through)
for any sort of casino “freebie” or giveaway . . :popcorn:Everyone who ever played at any table game . . :popcorn:
If there is someone they don’t recognize, one of the floormen just happens to wander over and ask where they are from and have them fill out a card so he can buy them lunch . . :wink-wink . . as if they really care about buying your lunch!!
I will never forget a family with 2 children who had car trouble and were stranded in Las Vegas and were broke. Someone was wiring money for them to get the car fixed and get back home. In the meantime, they asked if the casino could give the children something to eat . . security politely escorted them out (since they obviously had no money to spend in the casino)
I have at least a hundred more stories like this one!!
Of course now you see the big picture. We are a joke to them.
What may be even funnier is that we HAD the market and now we may be
out.
:popcorn:
aleph wrote:Of course now you see the big picture. We are a joke to them ..OH . . and let’s not forget the busloads of people the bus drivers bring to the hotels. They all fill out coupons to receive a free roll of nickels when they arrive.
Plus the fact the casinos advertise worldwide. I don’t think there’s a person on the planet who has not heard of Las Vegas or doesn’t know the names of several of the casinos here.
So .. do they need affiliates ? .. probably not, but they’ll always welcome the opportunity to reel in some new players.
They pay the bus drivers $50 to $100 to bring their busload of players to the casino for an hour or two.
I imagine if they do have affiliate programs .. they’ll be willing to pay us about the same thing .. $50 to $100 for a bus load of players :angry:
LasVegasLady wrote:Plus the fact the casinos advertise worldwide. I don’t think there’s a person on the planet who has not heard of Las Vegas or doesn’t know the names of several of the casinos here.I have to take exception to this. The casinos certainly do not advertise worldwide – in fact, I am reasonably certain that 99% of the world’s population outside North America would not be able to name any casino in Vegas except for Caesar’s Palace (though Wynn and Sands can now make a case for being recognized outside the US).
In my opinion, the land-based casinos actually stand to lose from the new legislation. I’d need to go back and find the figures but I am sure that land-based casinos actually made MORE money over the last few years – especially with the online poker boom re-energizing the nearly dead poker scene in Vegas.
Spearmaster wrote:I have to take exception to this. The casinos certainly do not advertise worldwide – in fact, I am reasonably certain that 99% of the world’s population outside North America would not be able to name any casino in Vegas except for Caesar’s Palace (though Wynn and Sands can now make a case for being recognized outside the US).I thought the MGM has a large base of foreign regulars, I also think the Venetian and possibly a few other casinos are building casinos in other countries. That 99% figure is way off in my opinion.
axl wrote:I thought the MGM has a large base of foreign regulars, I also think the Venetian and possibly a few other casinos are building casinos in other countries. That 99% figure is way off in my opinion.Las Vegas casinos do have a lot of foreigners playing, especially from Asia. However, these players still represent a very, very small percentage of the population.
Wynn and Sands have built casinos in Macau. The Venetian is also being built in Macau. Plus, the Sands is building in Singapore.
That being said, in countries with large populations like Indonesia and India, for instance, they have absolutely zero exposure to US brand names as far as casinos are concerned. Even in Thailand, with 60 milllion people, I can absolutely guarantee that 99.9 percent of the population could not name a single casino in Vegas, including Caesar’s Palace.
The most likely name in Asia that would be offered up as the name of any casino outside Asia, believe it or not, would be Ladbrokes – and they don’t operate land-based casinos.
Spearmaster wrote:I have to take exception to this. The casinos certainly do not advertise worldwide – in fact, I am reasonably certain that 99% of the world’s population outside North America would not be able to name any casino in Vegas except for Caesar’s Palace (though Wynn and Sands can now make a case for being recognized outside the US).In my opinion, the land-based casinos actually stand to lose from the new legislation. I’d need to go back and find the figures but I am sure that land-based casinos actually made MORE money over the last few years – especially with the online poker boom re-energizing the nearly dead poker scene in Vegas.
I believe you are correct … I believe Vegas has shattered
attendance records in the last few years and its one
of the fastest growing cities in America.
:rolleyes:
Quote:I am reasonably certain that 99% of the world’s population outside North America would not be able to name any casino in Vegas except for Caesar’s PalaceThat’s absurd!
from:http://www.insidervlv.com/visitorstatistics2.2005.html
Las Vegas Visitor Demographics – 2005
Gender
Male 51%
Female 49%
Origin
International 12%
USA 88%From: http://www.lasvegasnevada.gov/FactsStatistics/funfacts.htm
In 2004, more than 37 million people visited Las Vegas.
37 million x 12% = 4.4 Million International Visitors
I tend to agree with Spearmaster. If you asked people on the streets of
Manila, Philippines.. I’m sure that 99% of them wouldn’t know the name
of the casinos in Las Vegas. Also, I’m sure if you asked them to name
a casino within their country, 99% of them would know Casino Filipino.With that said, I think more than 1% of the global population could name
a casino in Las Vegas, but it’s not as high as some of you seem to think.Professor wrote:37 million x 12% = 4.4 Million International VisitorsI guess we were wrong and he was right.
4.4 million / 6.5 billion = 0.000676923077
I stand corrected, its tough to think outside this box when we havent been to those other boxes. :bigsmile:
Professor wrote:That’s absurd!from:http://www.insidervlv.com/visitorstatistics2.2005.html
Las Vegas Visitor Demographics – 2005
Gender
Male 51%
Female 49%
Origin
International 12%
USA 88%From: http://www.lasvegasnevada.gov/FactsStatistics/funfacts.htm
In 2004, more than 37 million people visited Las Vegas.
37 million x 12% = 4.4 Million International Visitors
Professor – 4.4 million does not make anywhere NEAR 1% of the rest of the world’s population.
Furthermore, that 12% includes Canadians…And hey according to the US Government NON US Citizens only count for .0000365 each, so there!
Unless we like them then they count .000050 :tounge2:
{Just Kidding by the way…. so dont send me any mail bombs from Jabuti!}
Spearmaster wrote:I have to take exception to this. The casinos certainly do not advertise worldwide . .OH YES they most certainly do ! !
1) I worked in the casino industry for several years.
2) My ex-husband is a casino executive at one of the casinos.
3) I have done a lot of traveling and there are GIANT 6 foot tall posters advertising Las Vegas in most major cities throughout the world.
In the European countries everyone is VERY aware of Las Vegas. They always have all kinds of questions about various casinos (which they know by name).
Travel agencies over there are FILLED with travel books and brochures regarding vacationing in Las Vegas. It is a very popular vacation destination for people from all over the world.
